There is a basketball adage that goes “Ball Don’t Lie.” Well the numbers don’t lie, either, and across all entertainment media, virtue signaling is a ratings disaster. This should offer a glimmer of hope that Americans of all stripes really don’t believe leftist lies. A large, silent majority lives in terror of being “canceled” or fired for their views. How do we get the silent to stand up?
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that's not alcohol i'm america's teacher benjamin jeremy stein and um right off the
bat we posted today there's a famous nba line by a famous nba player his name was rasheed wallace
and he had a line he got ejected from the game for this he was no ben this was when you could still
watch the nba and he was an old school ball player and there was a time when he fouled somebody
or he didn't think he was a foul and the person missed the foul shot and he said ball don't lie
oh that's very good it's become this amazing quote an amazing uh it's just it's it's a great
quote and it's been used for years and we were posting for the show today i was thinking about
numbers don't lie okay so if you look throughout please please please you've come to the right man
no no i i bet but just hear me out for a second but if you look throughout every form of media
from sports to television to the oscars to joe biden's speech last night ball don't lie people
ben are not watching this virtuous thing they're putting upon us so i'm the reason i'm bringing
this up is ben i think this does offer us hope well i think we have hope in many many different
records first of all let's not forget every day we wake up we are it's changing adversely but
we are still living in the greatest country in the world we're unbelievably blessed every day we wake
up in the united states of america is a blessing by the lord god that's one two uh the fact that
the republicans got and many of my other panelists and friends have commented we got a hell of a lot
of votes in the last election uh it was not as as if nobody voted for our side of the aisle uh next
uh we have people of great intelligence still writing and talking for us and many of them
appear on this uh show uh three times a week uh i i don't think we're without hope at all uh i flew
back from charlotte north carolina to lax last night and i feel like i felt like i was in an
east block country i mean they were we were being ordered around constantly from the ticket desk to
the check-in to the next phase of the second to the next phase of the second down the hall
everywhere we went people ordering us around and i thought this and then get on a plane they're
ordering around it it's not it's not america as i know it where you're ordered around from the
moment you wake up until the moment you leave but i think we we have a chance to uh perhaps
uh make progress in righting that wrong no here but the bigger point i'm trying to make is and i
agree with you a hundred percent is this this culture that they think they're forcing on us
right there is a majority and they're silent and we've discussed this the question is how the hell
do we get those people to not be silent when they're so scared of losing their livelihoods
of losing friendships how do we change that dialogue because that and i don't know where
to start on that one but because sorry ramsay you're a cat go ahead i'm trying
to figure that out myself ben it's like i tell you a starting point and i think gary gary and
i have talked about this before when the fuhrer was starting out the national socialist party had
what 20 30 members they totally faked it about how many members they had but they the members
they had were brawling beer drinking thugs who would frighten other people and would
get people to join up and join their rallies by telling they'd be beaten up if they didn't
something like that is happening on the democrat side of the aisle
and it's a very bad scary thing but uh we we can still stand up and they're not enough of them
in black lives matter and in antiva to beat us all up and at some point some of us will
resist but uh i i think if i may say this uh they are using a combination of brute force and
uh just uh power of the media yeah i'm going to go on another couple of seconds because i'm an
old man and i might not live very much longer but uh the black population of this country
is 13 or 14 percent very roughly uh of them most of them are just ordinary citizens like
you or me or anyone else uh but but there's a tiny majority of them a tiny number of them minority of
them who are incredibly active and energetic and lively they are joined by a group of very devout
and hard-working marxists and they managed to control the whole country this very small minority
of a small minority managed to control the whole party but that's how it was in nazi germany that's
how it was with the bolsheviks the bolshevik started out with a few thousand people wound up
controlling the largest country on the war in the world so you uh don't have hope but bremzo i mean
i do have a because we are we are aware of the historical precedent and know enough to fight back
remsa there was a town in arizona i think about a week ago i think it was called valencia
somewhere outside of phoenix i think and what happened was the local school board walked in
for their monthly meeting and a whole like crowd of parents came in hundreds of parents came in
and they were basically demanding that you know you had time to go ahead and install critical
race theory into the new program but none of your blackboard system works your half a week
of in-person learning doesn't work your priorities are all skewed you people are absolutely terrible
so the school board who's been hounded for almost a year actually went ahead and quit and they
all walked out so all the parents there held an impromptu election and they elected a new school
board overnight and they went ahead and brought everything back to where it was about a year
ago they threw out the new curriculum they were they're going ahead and they're trying to figure
out how to do in-person learning but you see that's one case there was a video uh in the county
next to me called in loudoun county virginia that went viral through breitbart and the blaze about
six seven months ago and it was almost of a different story you had parents show up you have
the entire school board there and the parents are yelling get our kids back in school open it back
up it's been too long and they're all screaming at these school board members and where the
school board members do they sit there and smile because at the end of the day those people can
show up and yell and scream and shout all they want but they don't show up for elections now
what happened in arizona was a miracle almost they just decided to quit and now there's a new
group of parents there they're actually trying to do well for the community but throughout
the country we're seeing these incidents where conservatives always show up a day late and a
dollar short they're late to the dance that's their motto i i happen to agree gary collins
100 agree well i joined the knights templar it's still around
so i'm doing my own duty to uh do crusades and all kinds of good stuff but no honestly i agree and
if if parents pulled their kids sorry i've been watching a lot of history if these parents pulled
their kids out of school we have a lot of people right now who also don't have jobs you know what
if the parents pull these kids out and start teaching and create their own education system
i'm a big civil disobedience guy you know what if the school system sucks and they're not teaching
your kids what they need to be teaching them people go well they're not certified this or
that what's a certified kid a dumb ass so what does it matter you know when that kid goes out
into the real world long as they know what the hell they're doing and how to act
that education doesn't mean [ __ ] so why worry about that stuff why worry about standardized
standardized tests why worry about getting into some stupid overpriced college teach your kids how
to act like a proper human being take it over pull them out of the school take the tax dollars away
and guess what they'll change their tune they'll start going oh well wait a second we don't have
enough kids enrolled i can't go on vacation in florida even though i'm in new york and
i'm supposed to be teaching these kids online oh [ __ ] i'm gonna have to go back and go back to work
honestly that's what you do just go if you're not playing by the rules
we're not playing by the rules we'll we'll meet your [ __ ] with our [ __ ] and let's see who wins
unless the kids are in the middle of this contest and uh i don't want them walking
away with no education at all and what i would like to see is a real education a real education
i mean education where children are taught something i i had the incredible privilege
genuinely incredible privilege of uh last week this week i'm spending time with a very very very
wonderful young girl who's related very closely related to me uh in uh south carolina and uh she's
terribly smart terribly terribly polite and she's really not being taught all she should be taught
but she could be taught she could be taught uh and uh that i think we we have to start with
teaching these kids even at a very very young age and if the parents want to set up adjunct schools
maybe they should do that i for many years was an adjunct at pepperdine and the pepperdine's a
fine fine school and i think the kids learned uh if i may say so at least as much for me as
from their regular teachers let's set up adjuncts at these various universities
no you're at you're at you you've all raised great points sorry gary go ahead well no that's a great
idea but the only way you're going to change these school systems is you have to hit them in the
wallet these local school systems you pull their enrollment and they don't have enough kids in
class and they start losing their funding they'll start changing their tune really quick because
even the union no if their union goes stuff is going to suffer because they're not going to
be getting enough dues because now you don't have enough teachers now you don't have enough students
it's kind of a long-term play but like i said our kids aren't getting educated for the most
part anyway today so what's the difference from the life skills i like that phrase long term
you know i've i've said this before and i'll say it again when the germans invaded france in 1940
and they pushed the french back very very fast although the france fought well it's a
total lie that they just gave up and ran away the france are very brave people they the uh
the defeatists and the turncoats in france said well we surrender the germans are superior but
charles de gaulle who had his problems no doubt about that uh said the broadcast from london my
fellow french we face a prolonged struggle he didn't say i give up he said we face a prolonged
struggle a very very smart friend of mine named eric alter taught me that probably 40 years ago
brilliant brilliant comment i would like to see us acknowledge it's going to be a prolonged struggle
as martin luther king said the night before he was killed i may not get there with you
but because i'm quite old but we are going to get there we keep struggling our ideas are so right
they so rightly fit in with the human spirit if we pursue them we will not fail brilliantly said
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guys are all raised amazing points um obviously the numbers don't prove that their theories
are people are accepting of their theories that we know we could look at the numbers
we could bend stein we could look at the stats and the math of their numbers and say people
don't want to be inundated with woke with cancer internet with what woke with woke culture with
cancer culture with leftist culture people don't want to be inundated with that the question i have
and i will ask this again is how do we get the silent majority to not be terrified now this week
i want to say was a terrifying week for many my mother my sister called me up on the phone we're
originally from new york we're all new yorkers and um our mayor america's mayor had his home rated
and uh had or his business rated and um it terrified them it terrified them that rudy
giuliani had his offices raided a for trump's former lawyer and i believe so did joe did
the geneva's offices also got raided and ben that is frightening stuff
incredibly writings of the connection between a lawyer and his client or her client
is vital confidentiality between them is vital the need of every defendant to have strong council on
strong defense competent capable defense is vital the idea of bullying and terrorizing
uh the council for the uh president of the united states is just breathtakingly bad i had a very
very s i had and have a very smart relative in my family who was a big uh pro uh biden person and uh
she's a terribly terribly smart woman and i suspect even she uh as an incredibly smart woman
would be overwhelmed with shock at the idea that you can have send in fbi agents at 6 00 a.m
to your lawyers to the house and rate it and rate it uh over something
we don't even know for sure what was over uh while meanwhile the hunter biden is running around loose
going to parties and the data about his wrongdoing is extremely voluminous what's
now using the fbi as the stormtroopers of the by the administration the fbi has been a stormtrooper
to the left for some time now i'm sorry to say although i think that my respect for the
ordinary fbi agent is absolutely boundless and i think people on the right are still waiting
for lindsey graham to bring uh to indict or to bring in front of the senate uh hunter biden
three years of a promise on sean hannity that was never actualized and i think gary collins
that's what frustrates people on the right or conservatives or normal people so much is they see
listen i'm not the biggest roger stone fan in the world but to have like you know an assault team at
this man's house uh at 6am more people after roger stone than they did to capture osama bin laden
yeah it's incredible it's unbelievable you're so right why did what usually these things are
handled through a person's lawyer why didn't they just send a subpoena to the lawyer i mean i am
aware i wasn't a trial wherever a considerable period of time when we wanted documents we just
sent a letter specifying the kinds of documents we wanted to the defendant's uh attorneys
and we never had a problem getting full uh representative uh which i say uh delivery of
the documents we wanted and i think that would be true of most lawyers that just send a letter
or or if necessary subpoena you don't need to break into a guy's house at 6 00 a.m that's
crazy well you already raised the point though gary collins is to instill fear into oh yeah
into americans that dissent and ben you brought this up yesterday with your pull-up bureau thing
uh and and this would stop something stalin would understand yes is is gary collins this is it
specifically meant to scare the bejesus out of normal americans
well absolutely no other purpose sorry i'm sorry guys oh no problem i i've uh written search
warrants i've executed search warrants i've done no knocks i've done six a.m i've done subpoenas
and i'll tell you right now that was purely uh to instill fear that's what that was done for
and honestly from what i understand and what i've heard i don't know if this is true or not but
they've been trying to turn over the the documents that were in the search warrant to the to doj for
two years now they volunteered this material ahead of time and said we will give it to you and i was
watching a piece where he had three hard drives that were uh copies of hunter biden's laptop
and per per usually in a search warrant it's all it's all digital media that you possess
that relate to a b and c well if that search warrant was written correctly they should have
taken those drives they did not they said no we will not take those and they took his word for
it that they were hunter biden's drives and they said no we're not taking that well wow very scary
i think legally they're in deep [ __ ] because that would be the fbi agents valid search warrant
100 yeah from everything well i think i'm sorry rem so i i would i i actually ever since i heard
this story yesterday i ever think i'm dying to know what ramsay's gonna say about this
oh i'll be completely honest let me preface this let me preface this regardless of your thoughts
about rudy giuliani no like here's the honest thing i don't genuinely know much about this story
i didn't know about it until you brought it up i had to go google it and you know for the most part
this just seems like what we should expect from biden the obama administration did this almost
all the time and i mean we saw them abuse the fisa courts we saw them use the irs to go after people
we saw them use the atf to go after gibson's guitars because the ceo of gibson guitars went
ahead and donated to mitt romney so they raided the factory because some of the wood was found to
have come from a country apparently shouldn't have been coming from to make guitars i mean they use
the the system of the police state in order to go ahead and justify this type of behavior and i mean
you know this is one of those situations where it's like this is what we got we shouldn't be
surprised with it the new director of the atf is the man who burned down the branch davidians
killing hundreds of women and children and elderly people and he stood in front of their smoldering
bodies and took a photo op to send out with a christmas card and while the rest of the world
is that really true that's too horrible yes the man who was part of the raid at
the branch davidians who's in the famous photo holding a rifle part of the rubble in front of
the bodies of smoldering americans is now the head of the atf he was also a former member
of gabby gifford's campaign to you know end gun violence and things like that
while the rest of america is catching up thanks to that amazing series on netflix called waco to
the fact that this is what this is what the atf and you know the the lorel inches of the world
and everyone did to the branch davidians then they're now catching up to what really happened
biden watched that and he said you know what let's get the guy that killed all those people
after they had already surrendered and attempted to come out because they were they they were
afraid to come out because they were afraid that they would be killed much like many of them had i
think ahead and said let's go ahead and make this guy the head of it benson i think the most amusing
part of this is he was interviewed today and he said i had no part in it i didn't know anything
about it just like he didn't know anything about hunter biden when we have proof that he knew
everything about it i have a quick question gary were you in government during the waco incident
waco ruby ridge tell us about ruby ridge gary i i have a home near ruby ridge and uh i can tell you
that was a police state through and through it and having to deal with these because i was uh early
law enforcement i may have been in the military during part of it i'm trying to remember the years
but even us when we're looking at it it frightened me because i'm all but they spun it they spun it
to where you know uh the the compound in waco with the um favorite korres crash i had cadet
or kardashian in the head so 601 yeah yeah it's the same difference right and and they they made
it sound like you know it was this evil occult and you know they're raping children and women and
don't get me wrong it was a weird world in there for sure but to go in and actually raid a place
and threaten and there was a lot of threats going on from the government to them you just sit there
and you're a part of it and part of the problem was when i was in and at that young of an age you
know you hear what you kind of want to hear you know i thought david kardashian you know maybe
i'm sure
that you know you you want to believe but later on in life once the evidence came out and we analyzed
it i analyzed it during my master's degree we did it in a course and i remember going wow wow
that was that was evil that was bad yeah why did it i mean again wildly excessive use of force
wildly excessive we don't like wildly excessive use of force when it's against african-americans
we don't like it when it's against people worshiping god and even if they're worshiping god
in a way that we think is particularly unappealing uh we don't want them being killed over it and uh
what's what's going on here why are we allowing that to happen what ben is providing on this
these aren't local offices that dictate this this comes from
dc down because you can't do any of these operations without approval from headquarters
so this stuff these marching orders are coming from bureaucrats and the heads of these agencies
who are empty suits and bureaucrats like we always said [ __ ] floats to the top in the government
and i kid you not that these marching arts are coming from politicians i mean that's where this
stuff's coming from not no local office or no local uh asac or special agent in charge
is going to be able to run any of these operations like this without approval or marching orders from
the bigwigs so them denying that they don't know anything like the fast and furious and all that
complete and utter [ __ ] they know because they more than likely gave the order i know this first
day and i worked in it you just don't i couldn't go out and just execute a search warrant and
just go out on my own and do whatever the hell i wanted it had to be approved by headquarters
even for me in a local office headquarters had to give their approval before i did anything
and i actually had to tell them in a proper procedure everything that i was going to do all
my paperwork everything so anyone who thinks this is a bunch of rogue agents or anything like that
no way yeah peter strzok for example i'm sorry go ahead don't know please yeah so i mean peter
struck from the fbi as a prime example you know he ends up getting a book deal i mean he's being
offered to teach uh classes at george washington and he's a man who basically said he's going to
use everything within his power as a special agent to you know use all the authority given to them by
robert mueller to try and sway the impeachment and the investigation into the whole russia hoax
to go ahead and remove the president and he did so with everything being approved by the higher ups
uh comey and everyone like all of this had to have been approved and i mean i'm not a big
marco rubio fan but marco rubio says a quote that i often think of often which is these people do it
intentionally we have to think that they're not doing this intentionally they know what they're
doing and they're doing it because they want to yeah they want to scare us i mean as i was walking
to the airport at charlotte yesterday i thought if we we live you know this is the best country in
the world it's absolutely heaven in most regards just heaven but we live in a republic of fear
which we have never had before in this country at least not since the civil war a republic of fear
and somehow that got sneaked through uh under the guise of combating racism it was all nonsense
at one point there was very terrible terrible terrible terrible racism in this country
just awful but uh that has been untrue for a very long time but they're still playing on
that they're still playing on that to take away the freedoms of decent people it's a scary thing
it's a very scary thing and to whim up race hatred in america it's no joke these things start small
and they can get to be very big very fast and and i'll end up with this on this segment it's you
have republicans being on hannity for three years swearing that they're going to do investigation
after investigation at their investigation and do absolute jack [ __ ] and excuse my language
it's frustrating it's aggravating that you have top leaders in the republican party
promising prosecutions are going to come you have john solomon riling people up and nothing ever
happens and until republicans learn how to fight fire with fire we are screwed right now and on
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welcome back to the world according to ben stein gary i saw you shaking your head for a second
well no remember this name trey gowdy that human ass clown you know he would promised investigation
after investigation i always would get asked this what frustrates you the most and i go
these congressional inquiries are pure theater these guys will not go after each other they're
all getting rich off it republicans and democrats no one's going to upset the apple cart because
if they do they're going to screw up the money train and trey gowdy used to bark all the time
and i could tell the guy didn't know anything about doing an investigation guy was clueless
complete clueless what's he do now oh he's a talking head for fox
he's a talking head for fox and if you and by the way if you do watch forensic files which has been
one of our favorite shows i think trey gowdy made six appearances on that show um i know
i i love i i know he hasn't been as quite as as much unfollow through as some of us
like when he was very very good during some of the hearings and i still like him and we're again
theater facing this problem as my mother used to say the best is the enemy of the good we're not
gonna get the best there was one best guy in terms of uh pursuing the enemies of the constitution
and that was mccarthy and his name just became it was just soiled and made into a synonym for
everything awful which he should not have been well the left has a million mccarthy's but i
want to get to something that's frightening and we knew that this was coming and this was
trending on twitter and that twitter allowed it after after after the incoherent and i'm being
nice when i say that the rumblings of um whatever his name is that's in the white house right now
um gave that speech yesterday and tim scott uh gave the rebuttal um was trending on twitter
was uncle it was uncle tim i know shocking and disgraceful disgraceful that would never have been
permitted uh in a more decent world but we don't live in a more decent world we live in a world
where people are angry and crazed and uh i always say to people uh it was going to take action
action action and prayer prayer and we we i mean we we talked before i went off to south carolina
about uh having walking around in front of the beverly hills police station with placards saying
we support the police and i'm happy to do that except some i'm a very poor artist but if someone
has a better artist wants to do that that's fine i thought in the meantime we should just go in
there and say we love you guys and we're proud of the work you do but let's not forget that the
each policeman each policewoman is a person he or she has a home to go back to friends family they
don't want to go back feeling that they're hated i believe three were killed today i
believe three were assassinated today three three police officers were ambushed and assassinated
um i have to look it up if somebody in the chat room could tell me where that happened but i
believe two or three officers were shot happening too much we're shot to death but and the other day
this is not ironic a an african-american woman was doing her podcast and was doing a podcast and the
last words she said on the podcast were [ __ ] the police and she was drunk and she was drunk and she
ran over a new york city police officer and killed him oh my god i can't believe this what was that
woman's name uh people in the chat room could look that up but gary i want to get back to this thing
where i it that this is allowed that he could be called and you knew it was coming but that
that that um twitter allowed this uncle tim uh to to trend and again we know we're never gonna ask
for fairness and we're never going to get a fair shake in these worlds but how do they at msnbc
the [ __ ] and hate that they were spewing towards tim scott is an embarrassment
oh well no it's racism racism and that's the part that i get really frustrated with
are you you know like i said i'm you know you call me switzerland but i'm not you know i'm i'm a more
conservative thought process you know i was in the government i was in law enforcement so i tend to
lean a little more right but i have far i have left views as well but the problem i have is is
the left plays by different rules their attitude by different rules right and and their attitude
is it's not racism if they say it um it's totally okay or if a black person calls another person a
racist term or or or name long as they're on the left it's totally okay right and this is this is
typical of leftist thinking typical of dictatorial thinking uh and the the fuhrer said it very well
if i say it that's the law i mean that's the law there's a wonderful movie i strongly recommend
that all of you watch it called downfall about the last days of adolf hitler in the bunker in 1945
and at one point his uh his his girlfriend's uh brother uh says you've gotta you've gotta persuade
him to leave and that you or if he doesn't wanna leave you've gotta leave yourself because you're
all going to die and she says i wish i spoke german but i don't uh she said but he's the fuhrer
you say what he says goes and that's the way it is now if the left and the leading spokesmen are left
especially if you're from the washington post or new york times say it then it has to be true it's
the ben they say it is true you're 100 right so it was watuga county north carolina two deputies
were killed and three other people including the gunmen were found dead after a 13-hour standoff
so there you are no news no no lowering of the flags but rem let's get back to this and
i go to you because i know you've shared on the show before intimately how you've faced
racism and uh it was very it was very difficult to hear when you shared that
um but this tim scott thing calling him uncle tim it's just heartbreaking every time there's a
tim scott or leo tyrell or a larry elder there and they have a differing point of view it's
frightening what the media and the left is able to get away with remso under the guise of i don't
even know what the guys is i don't i don't get it they don't either guys if they say it it goes
it's their fuhrer ramza yeah i don't have a doctorate or a masters in this but i do have a
bachelor's in political science u.s government politics and policy from liberty university
and recently i actually went through some of my old notes as i was clearing out some some stuff
to throw away and actually looked at them and i don't remember what the class was specifically
but we were we were talking about absolute warfare and specifically the example was what william to
come say sherman did as he was going and blazing a trail through the south i mean it was good
yeah i mean what he was absolutely doing was total war and he went ahead and wrote
i think a letter actually robert e lee at one point and he was like listen man
like i don't want to do this but this is what i have to do and i will go ahead and destroy
everything in front of me to get what i need to get done because as much as i hate war i'm willing
to play to win and that made me think of one of my favorite movies actually it's uh christopher
nolan's the dark knight which is a batman film but it's actually a really good example
of post-modernism and relativist philosophy in a post-9 11 era it was almost a post-9 11 film to to
a large degree and there's a scene at the very end of the film where batman has captured the joker
and the joker is taunting him he's like you think you can go ahead and put me in jail
this one time i'm just gonna go out and i'm gonna kill more children and i'm gonna kill more cops
and that's the difference between you and i because your moral code is gonna stop you from
killing me and i'm gonna make you think that you killed all those people because i'm gonna get out
and i'm just gonna kill and kill and kill and batman walks away because batman will not kill
the joker because batman is not killer batman is not judge jury and executioner and i think
that's the big difference right now and it's not a political divide it's a divide amongst mindset
it's the people who are willing to divide it's a divide amongst it's a divide amongst mindset
it's not political divide because you have a moral divide yeah because because you have half
these people who see this as absolute warfare they're willing to do anything and everything
to achieve their means and then you have the others who are like batman who are held back
by their own sense of morality they're not really that's a brilliant analogy that is absolutely a
brilliant analogy remso and i go to you ben stein and i say how why are we not the fighters that
they are why are we why do we feel like it's that we need to take some sort of moral high ground
some of it is explained i hate to say this by ethnicity uh some people are just uh ethically
more angry than other people i mean i i know that this isn't ben ben these are white reporters on
msnbc black versus white as you well know and you you know me so well no i'm not referring to
black versus white uh some of it is just the fact that angry people choose a cause which
espouses the material materializing of anger i mean what is communism but the materializing of
anger rage jealousy and envy is rolling it up into a big bundle and calling it a so calling
a socially uplifting policy but instead it's a policy about rationalizing murder that's a great
national socialism it was not about eugenics they said it was it was really a policy you of
rationalizing murder so i'm afraid we have we have some very very sick people spiritually sick as we
nai say spiritually sick and they uh they they cloak their spiritual sickness in language of uh
spiritual goodness and it's some people bite and some people don't see and and i gotta be honest
and and just everybody out there knows ben stein is is is a man that he's you're an honorable man
no no no and i mean that from the bottom of my heart you i want to tell people a story and and
we live in hollywood and in hollywood everybody's always scared they're scared that somebody's
going to steal their idea they do right because they do they're scared that somebody's going to
snake them for their idea or or if you're the bigger name whatever and a couple years ago ben
ben and myself um ben and i of course thank you mrs levin uh went to pitch a show to um
westwood one for they wanted us to do a podcast and um we were sitting in the room and they kept
on looking at ben and ben basically said you realize i'm not going to do this without him
and and you know when you said i'm not you know jude is part of the package this isn't like an
exce and and and there was no point of me there was no point in me um point there was no thought
that i ever had that you were gonna snake me i could have been with a thousand other people
scared to death but with ben stein i knew that we were that we were a tandem package and i gotta
tell you in the world that is extremely hard to find and the reason i bring that up is you have
people on msnbc like nicole wallace who used to work for george bush and who who is just spewing
gary collins this utter hatred and nonsense and do anybody confront them i want to know is somebody
on the street gonna walk up to these people and say are you out of your freaking minds
i i had friends at the white house staff uh when i was working for mr nixon who did have
moral principles the ones i i mean i in fact almost all of the ones who i think of most
uh intently are a guy named tennessee's got john r coyne and a fellow armed action they were
incredibly wonderful brave people who stood up for the things they believed in and if i may say so my
father god bless his soul god rest his soul he's been dumb gone now for i'm sorry to say 22 years
uh when he was chairman of the council of economic advisers there was an unequivocal a person who
unequivocally was not hiring a certain economist as a researcher
unequivocally was not hiring him because he was black and my father said that you just can't do
that i'm going to resign if you don't do you have to have to hire him if he's the most qualified
you don't have to hire because he's black but if he is the most qualified you have to hire him
and uh it went all the way up to mr nixon and mr nick said of course of course of course we cannot
deny this man a job if he's black they would get not even to be considered that would not happen
it would be the exact opposite the person would come in and they'd say he's very talented but
he's white and that would kick him out immediately that that's the way we've come to so my question
to you gary collins and ramzo is why why why are we such pacifists why are we not stormy yeah
no what we're seeing it's very typical they've been following salinsky's rules for radicals for
decades since the 60s what they're doing is they know that we will follow our own rules so they
use our own rules against us that's one of his doctrines follow their own rules so what would
they know is that we have a moral conscience so they're using our moral conscience against us
they know we will not cross lines so they keep pushing and keep pushing and keep pushing and
i've always said and people have heard me talk about this and this isn't puffing my chest out or
saying anything i know the people i worked with in my life i know the people i surround myself with
they push too far and it's not going to go very well for them i'll leave it at that it's going
to be bad news for them but they're pushing and pushing because they want that overflow they want
that to happen and luckily we're good people we're nice people we believe in loving each other and a
lot of us were in the military and law enforcement and we see the evil side of what evil people do
and we don't want to go there because once you go there you can't go back
it's simple they know that we won't cross the same right they assume that we're civilized and there's
going to come a point where when where people and i got to be honest with you there are some people
ben if i met them i'd have a very hard time being civilized and i know you have the sharpton rule
that you will bail me out um you'll bail me out but there are certain other people berenso i go
i'll go back to you how do you stay civil i mean it's really getting difficult to be civil i'm so
happy i get to talk about batman so much tonight going back to the dark knight which is a film that
means so much regardless of what it is there's a scene where they have to they have to everyone has
to get out of gotham city and you have two boats you have a boat full of hospital patients that's
going across the river and you've got another boat from inmates from arkham asylum criminals rapists
muggers everybody and what the joker has done is he's planted two bombs on each ship now each ship
has one person that has the button that will blow up the other ship so the convict ship can blow up
the hospital ship and the hospital ship can blow up the convict ship and the joker tells them over
a radio the only way your one of you is going to live is if you kill the other so what ends up
happening is everyone on the hospital ship keeps saying you know those people are criminals they've
you know they they've they've committed their acts of evil they should not we should not care because
they're evil people and then you have this guy he's a big tattooed giant thug he goes over to
the guy after remote he says you don't have the balls to do what what needs to be done i'll do it
so what ends up happening everyone thinks that the hospital ship is gonna blow up the convict ship
and that the convict ship has gone blow up the hospital ship so what the convict does
is he takes the button and he throws it out the window and as both ships go to the other side
batman looks at the joker and he says you lost you couldn't make them kill each other
that is the big difficult choice that we have in society because we don't know what the other
side is thinking at the end of the day and the moment we make that decision if the hospital ship
had killed the ship full of criminals what would have made them any different
and officially remzo has a new nickname it's remzo the bat martinez um you've earned it
tonight and on that note if you just tuned in you are listening to the world according to ben stein
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world according to ben stein we're joined tonight by the simplelife.com simplelifenow.com um what
simplelifenow.simplelifenow.com gary collins um and of course remso martinez who's got one
of a great podcast about comics and stuff on the run with remso martinez and of course ben stein
you can find him on parlor at ben stein i want to do a little new segment tonight i want to call
instead of trivial pursuit it's going to be trivia stein um trivia trivial ben and um
people always have questions for for ben i know gary has questions for ben
somebody in the chat room asked ben are you a keynesian um asian keynesian i'm sorry
yes very large not entirely but very largely yes yes and i know right and i know people have
questions for you that are trivia based and uh i know so i will let gary go with the first question
i got a good one for you ben what is the biggest obstacle and why will they not incorporate a flat
tax uh because it's highly regressive to charge the same rate to very uh un unwealthy people
as to wealthy people the idea i think has been built through consensus over many decades
that we want to tax rich people at a higher rate than poor people or middle class people because
they can afford it if they lose a certain amount of money it doesn't in any sense affect their way
of life i mean there's money and spending money only affects your way of life it would deprive
you of something but at one point in my life long long ago i earned a very substantial living by
at least by my modest standards and so basically nothing i did at any cost because it didn't keep
me from doing anything else but uh the same same is true of taxation if you have a very
wealthy person it doesn't really matter what his or her taxes it doesn't really cost them anything
doesn't keep them from getting anything so uh i think the idea is we we want to be people to be
able to live the way they want to live without regard to their tax bracket and that's uh
it seems to be perfectly legitimate and we will i should say without regard to that income
there's no reason a very rich person should pay the same uh low rate on each dollar earned
as a middle class or lower middle class person okay so i have a question oh sorry guys follow up
would you be in favor of a tiered system then like 10 15 25 well i think that's
not exactly but largely what we have now and we have a system which is progressive it's nowhere
near as steeply progressive as it was when i was a child but it's progressive uh but i have
no problem whatsoever with a tier system as long as it adheres to the basic principle that we do
not want to deprive people of whatever they need to live in a way that is comfortable and allows
them to take care of their families okay so ben i have a question for you and thank you for the
great answer and then i'll get the rhymes on back to gary um so they keep on saying inflation isn't
we're not at risk for inflation but yet we see on products inflation so how do you i i don't
understand what's the difference really if we're seeing it on things we buy inflation and not and
you i think you understand what i'm asking you i understand well they answer that as i often say
to you my dear friend judah is a one is data and one is anecdote i mean i am i do all the shopping
for the stein family my own little family although it actually includes an awful lot of people who
are not related to me but they are they might as well be related to me and uh i do notice very
distinctly that the prices of things i buy are going up i think at a breathtakingly rapid rate so
uh but the data is quite the contrary and this was true during the knicks and four days when i was at
the white house and my sainted father was there and people would ask him the same question and
he would say well you you can hold up a pot roast you can say i paid two dollars a pound
a dollar a pound less for a year ago and i will say yeah but then there's some other thing that's
uh this price is altered so it's offset that that's probably that price so uh we
do have an awful lot of gathering of data and the gathering of data is at least quite clear to me
uh that there hasn't been much inflation that's one of the great mysteries of economics economics
is an art and not really a science and we just don't know why there's not been more inflation
there should have been there's been an incredible amount of money created which is the unusual
determinant of how much inflation there will be but it doesn't seem to be this time around and we
don't know why that should be by the way it's it's an art not a science that should be called the
paul krugman law um well he's a he he's somebody else entirely i have to say i used to be on tv
with him a great deal and he's a perfectly nice guy but uh really it's hard to believe that person
could be so consistently wrong okay before i get to remsa somebody asked obviously other
than ferris what was the your favorite movie television show or book or commercial that you
worked on well by far by far the the wonder years i love the wonder years are really really long
and also uh what'd you say i said i totally forgot you were in that one yeah i was not a
continuing character and now the uh and i also i also loved of course my show you i might say uh
when ben stein's money i love that a great deal really really really loved that a lot
except when i lost i was the only person ever who was the host of a game show who had to pay out
his own money when he lost nobody else has ever had to do that and it was a highly motivational
part of my life and i would get very very upset when i lost and a very smart friend of mine
said uh ben it's not a moral issue and that helped me a lot and by the way awful lot of lies that
we think is terribly important it's not a moral issue what about the clear eyes i love to accept
that one day they made me sit on a chair that was attached to a big tall board and then they pressed
the button and the chair collapsed under me and i was dropped into a big huge huge barrel of water
and uh it was even though i was game because i was being paid well for it that made me game
i didn't like it it was kind of creepy to be suddenly uh have the bottom pulled out from under
me so to speak that was but i think the alaska fisherman commercial was worse oh that oh my god
that was terrifying that was when i was a cherished sponsor of the last receiver fisheries
council or commissioner whatever it's called and uh they had me on a raft off the coast of
uh alaska and some giant iceberg was as they call them calving calving or calving average mounts
and i was throwing enormous gigantic chunks of ice in the ocean that made the oceans rise and fall
and i was on this little dinky raft if it threw me in the ocean i would die of hypothermia in
30 seconds i was really really scared and they said to me well do you want to stop doing it you
bet i want to stop doing it and we did we did it inside on a platform that had uh springs on
it and in the background they had something that was uh that was that looked like it looked like a
water like a scary water thing that was really really scary didn't like that at all
but uh it was that was great it was all it was all great ever every dollar you make
at acting is a a great dollar okay the rems of the bat you're up next for trivial ben and
a lot of really really really weird things have happened over the past year so i'm curious to know
about this one this might be the most important question of the night do you believe in aliens
i mean alien immigrants or aliens from outer space aliens from outer space extraterrestrial life
uh i guess i believe there's extraterrestrial life whether it is on two legs and then we can
get up and walk around and talk and play chess i don't know but uh where there are microbes and uh
uh so what i would guess that there are but i it would be entirely a guess i could be totally wrong
the universe is quite indifferent to the faith of man but if you if but we do have two friends who
do believe in them heavily um want a frequent guest on the show larry clayman who's um
uh a huge believer in them so we we don't ostracize people that do rems
though we're not we don't ostracize anyone who disagrees with us and we don't hold grudges
i have a number of people in this world who have been very mean to me and uh even sadistic
and i do not hold grudges uh i learned that from my wife
the absolutely finest human being on the planet by far and a literal goddess an actual goddess and i
learned that from her don't hold grudges okay gary i'll give you one more oh gosh another one oh gosh
yo what would be a show i i forgot about the wonder years golly um what would be a show
or something you did that most people don't know about i'm not sure most people know that
i was in an episode of macgyver right it's not a comedy episode i played an fbi agent
i was chasing a plane down a runway firing a revolver at a plane as it was
as it was taking off and that's pretty much all i did in that episode the main thing i remember
is i had to get up very early in the morning and drive up to the vicinity of magic mountain
and i thought to myself as i was doing the others in the days before i had a driver
and i thought oh my god this is insane i'm going to fall asleep at the wheel
and uh i didn't then it was fine but i i i'm i hardly regret anything that i ever did as an actor
as a writer i was treated very very badly on many occasions very very badly the writer in hollywood
is generally treated like jerk and uh so my last my last question to you would be this as you were
doing these shows as you were doing an episode i think you did of seinfeld maybe you did the family
you did the family guy as you were doing all these different things did you were you realizing at
the time because most people don't realize when they're in there in the middle of doing something
how special something is and that how how lucky you were to get away in a sense
that most people that are econ economists that work that were speech writers don't live
that life i was incredibly conscious of it and incredibly happy and grateful to the lord god joe
the lord of hosts that that i was able to do that and to escape from the bureaucracy and uh
and escape from filing papers and reading documents i well i like actually like reading
documents with able to escape from being in the bureaucracy and go out in the real world
and be in front of cameras and that was just i was deeply deeply grateful especially to john hughes
to really change my life in a big way and to al burton probably the most kind wonderful person
besides my wife i've ever met and to wrap up the show ben this is ben's auto biography ben has had
tons of dogs a lot of them german short hair pointers he has a dog in his room
that's stuffed that some people don't know and it took me about 15 years to get used to the stuff
to the stuffed dog uh his they still do have three cats ben's debating getting another
dog am i am i saying that correctly ben i i'm i would very much like to get another dog i haven't
gotten uh my wife on board with it but uh i love dogs especially german shorter pointers
and weimaraners i just i can't even describe to you how much i love german shirt air pointers and
wire runners they're incredibly fine dogs they're just wonderful wonderful wonderful dogs i love
them love them love them i want to say there's at least oh there's at least 15 urns of cream
of dogs and cats we had cremated and then captain earns in front of our fireplace in the living room
yes on that note i mean i had a wonderful time tonight i want to thank rock breath who uh who's
been a great friend to the show and a great friend to me um he him and his wife jeannie uh
they're my sounding board for a lot of things and it's greatly appreciated rock breath you you
do you you are fantastic i want to thank all the people that are listening in the chat i love your
comments we love every everything about you uh through through rough times this brings us joy i
i look forward to this i look forward to what you have to say i look forward to gary collins i love
that i've become a friend of yours i love that i become a friend of remsos and and i mean this it's
it's an honor and a privilege that i get to do this that we get to do this um remsa um you could
find gary collins people please tell people where they could find you gary the simplelifenow.com
check out my podcast the simple life with gary collins it's great i promise it's you won't you're
not missing out remsa you can find my show twice a week every monday and thursday on the run with
reps w martinez available wherever podcasts are and if you like the batman talk i do another show
with my good friend mark clare called the second print comics podcast bringing an hour and a half
to two hours of comic book and movie news every wednesday and of course you could find ben stein
on parlor at benstein spectator.org he wrote a brilliant piece today where's that brilliant piece
going to be coming out is that newsmak respect ah that will be i forgot now to tell you the truth
i think it's newsmax it's a brilliant piece go to newsmax when it comes out but go also go to
spectator.org and if you have a few extra shekel donate some money to them they could always use it
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world according to ben stein we'll see you again saturday night have a great couple days but ben
take us out good night sweetheart well it's time to go good night sweetheart well it's time to go
i hate to leave you but i really must say good night sweetheart good
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