The World According To Ben Stein

Mad Maxine!

Episode Summary

“Mad” Maxine Waters (who for years called for republicans to be harassed in public spaces) calls for “confrontation” and no surprise, Dems refuse at the very least to censure! While President Trump called for peace and was backstabbed, rebuked and impeached by some Republicans. “Surrounded by strangers I thought were my friends,” applies to not only President Trump, but it also applies to us. We need new friends and that has to start immediately.

Episode Transcription

well my dear friend how are  you i'm great how are you  

very good sir thank you you look wonderful  like you're very kind you look wonderful too  

god bless you sir both of you always look  wonderful your hair is brilliant too very  

wonderful judah god bless you uh your  your your hair out is the beacon of hope

god bless you sir god bless you amazing  now modern medicine is absolutely amazing  

it's uh it's just true it's really true  really i mean who would have ever thunk it  

yeah it's incredible i i you look great  you look fabulous look like a movie star  

and on that note i want to welcome everybody to  the world according to ben stein we are stroking  

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because then they could ban me again but  we're joined tonight by 93 from 93.1 wibc  

bam the future of conservative talk radio as  always rob kendall it is a snowstorm here in  

central indiana but it is warm with your hearts is  that true really is there a snowstorm there really  

limbs are falling left and right there are  leaves on the trees and they are falling over  

wow that's amazing and it was warm today  and wow you know it is amazing everyone  

moved to l.a yeah sure um and of course we are  joined by actor songwriter philanthropist um  

doctor scientist magician uh provocateur the  promotion anonymous lawyer economist writer a  

novelist um yes don't say mathematician because  that's what got me into trouble and of course we  

welcome america's humble servant benjamin jeremy  stein welcome aboard sir welcome to be honored  

to be here thank you for everybody listening um i  mean where to start there's so much going on but  

first i want to get right into this mad max mad  maxine thing um with her inflammatory comments  

um ben we we um it took three and a half months  for this autopsy on this police officer who died  

you know which is a real tragic loss in  the capital and um were the grounds of  

impeachment i don't know what autopsies take  three and a half months but you also had a  

woman that got shot by the police that you  know no charge for no reason for no reason  

for absolutely no reason ben but you have  maxine waters who has been stirring the  

pot of first getting into people's family she  you know her she's been doing this for years

literally this i just just occurred to me i have  been dealing with her since before you were born

that's just that's a long  time and yeah and that's what  

why a lot of people say term limits  because maxine waters has been there  

that means for 44 years of greed of corruption  and hostility and now actually and pretty much

and ben now calling for violent  pretty much confrontation  

if trump or anybody and we know this said  anything even remotely similar to this  

he got impeached she can't she won't even get uh  censored she couldn't even get censored from her  

own party yeah i mean i back up a little bit yes  why do i know maxine waters because when i moved  

here to glorious la center of the universe i wrote  a column for many years for our afternoon paper  

the glorious herald examiner the wonderful  wonderful harold examiner edited by one of  

america's great editors jim bellows and then by a  wonderful super great woman editor named marianne  

dolan and then by another great our editor named  stan cloud and uh one and i wrote four columns a  

week or maybe three or four columns a week the  big issue in l.a at that time was school busing  

should children from the inner city usually  african-american freedom fighters in the making  

be bussed to suburban schools mostly white  mostly making brothers of white fascist children  

and thereby presumably improve  their education i said no i said no  

shading a white child next to a black child  does not make the black child a better student  

smarter or in any way improve his or her life  if he or she wants to learn he or she can learn  

uh without having to bust all over kingdom  come and there are two wonderful women in l.a  

roberta green roberta roberto something or  other roberta weintraub and another one whose  

name was robert creator right now who fought  against this blessing and there are two giant  

referenda in l.a that was overwhelmingly  against school busing the federal judges  

taking their own their typical bolshevik  stand ordered both bussing anyway the result  

all the schools have been destroyed the whole  school system is destroyed except for beverly  

hills where i happen to be sitting right now and  malibu where we also haven't have a house and  

they're not part of the la unified school  district so maxine waters helped propel  

school busing to fruition which killed the  la unified school district and she is a bad  

person just in my opinion i'm not god but i think  she's a very bad person well you're like you know  

you're allowed to give your opinion even if you're  not god because we're on this universe right rob  

yeah and i have a question because what is it  about california rewarding idiot politicians  

and this uh uh night stalker documentary that was  on netflix you realize that dianne feinstein when  

she was mayor of san francisco almost gave away  the identity of the night stalker so they couldn't  

catch him and now we hear about maxine waters  why does california keep rewarding dumbasses  

why does everyone keep rewarding dumb asses i  mean who's sitting in the white house right now  

who's a senator from cal a senator from california  uh you know who's be who's speaker of the  

house of representatives who's a majority  leader in the senate you mean who's governor  

of new york's of new york state i mean we've  we we human beings make terrible mistakes and  

with the media completely in the  hands of the leftists and the liberals  

uh then that we are going to keep a lesson they're  electing dumbass and i might add were there are  

plenty of conservative dumb asses too yes oh that  that's the point also is that not they decided not  

no dems censored maxine waters rob but  you had plenty of republicans there  

to impeach trump in the second time you had  plenty of republicans there chiding him and and  

all these different things anything trump could  have said that day is a blip compared to what  

maxine waters called for this weekend absolutely  i'm sorry go ahead please rob i beg your pardon  

your gun please no no we're talking about this on  the air today that you have this police officer  

who died of natural causes i've never heard of  an autopsy taking three months but yet let's talk  

about dumbasses mitt romney murkowski collins ben  sass uh i think richard burr was in there i mean  

all of oh no please i like richard  please don't tell me he was in there  

he was he was i believe he was too oh that  breaks my heart it really does wow wow go on rob  

i i mean all of these by the way i used to talk  to richard burr quite a bit when i did talk radio  

down in north carolina and i know you love him  ben but there's not a lot there man i'm sorry okay

but then it goes to this point and we said  you know you know i love that line from bob  

seger surrounded by strangers i thought were my  friends that seems to be the constant theme in  

the republican party or in the courts no matter  who we vote on no matter who we get in there they  

tend to never be our friends we it's it's one  of the most fascinating and frightening things  

you witnessed it yourself fight in two lifetimes  ben you witness it with nixon and you witnessed  

it with trump these feckless republicans and it  i'm more i'm more maddened by the republicans  

how that we don't unify than i am at dems for all  sticking together for maxine waters at least they  

at least they call us around i i think your point  is well taken there is something in the psyche of  

many republicans uh which just is not tough enough  and not determined enough to get the job done and  

i i i think i don't know why why that is i really  don't i i think it's maybe because they come  

from a different uh backgrounds i i don't know  but uh i do know i learned i learned something  

incredibly interesting last night and you're  going to say to me judah why is this interesting  

in 1944 that we were in the middle towards  the end of a huge huge huge war and fdr had  

been present during the whole of the time the u.s  was in the war and there was an election between  

him and the republican tom dewey thomas e dewey  and incredibly even in the middle of a war dewey  

came fairly close to winning the popular vote he  didn't win it but he came fairly close to winning  

it even in a war so there is a fairly good sized  nucleus of conservatives in america or at least  

there was and the fact that we've had several  conservative republicans in the last 20 years  

in office or psalm anyway um shows me that they're  out there we have to stick together to appeal them  

to appear to i think that germans have a phrase  i think i may have made me saying is that aus  

holland or something like that i'm sure i'm saying  wrong which means something like all together we  

have to be all together and uh and we're not we're  just not and somebody brings up something rob that  

you often hear this and i don't believe it to  be the truth that republicans play by the rules  

no they don't republicans don't play by the  rules they're just a bunch of timid independent  

jackasses like you guys said that either  way wait i did not say there budget a bunch  

of candidate jack ass no no no but you used that  word before but um they're both they they're they  

don't play by the rules they play for rules for  themselves they place themselves above party raw  

yeah i don't know what reason there is to vote  for republicans anymore i mean how many times  

do do conservatives work their asses off to  get these people elected and then they do  

nothing for us i mean it's interesting  because george bush did an interview the  

other day with norah o'donnell  from nbc where he completely

he completely throws the trump voter under  the bus it's the typical bush bullcrap  

and yet he's doing it on a network and with a  group of people that did everything in their  

power to destroy him he and his father and  his father exactly he throws me under the bus  

who voted for the guy who defended his nonsensical  gibberish for years he was a total disappointment  

and yet he goes and he lines up with these people  this is why i hate the bushes it's one of my  

favorite things to talk about on the air is how  much i hate the bushes and george bush and roberts  

is the epitome of the bush administration right if  the bush administration were a person it would be  

john roberts it happens time and time and time  again and let's not forget ben stein he didn't  

pardon scooter libby it was president trump that's  part of scooter libby so he couldn't even pardon  

a guy that took it on the t you know that took it  for them that was very bad to do that i campaigned  

for him i've been friends and my parents were  friends with the bush family forever um uh  

and that not pardoning shooter libby was  really really really disappointing uh and uh  

i mean i i think that the second iraq i  mean the iraq war was very disappointing i  

i i mean i don't understand that you're not  bailing out lehman brothers you consider that one  

let me back up let me back up thank  you very much judah meyer friedman  

when the crash this was happening i pleaded with  my friend a real really really wonderful man a  

wonderful wonderful man mr rove please please  please please please on your knees if necessary  

beg mr bush to bail out lehman brothers  didn't do it i said to him why didn't he do it  

who's he afraid of is he afraid of paulson  he was secretary of the treasury then and  

mr rose said yes i think he is and i am too and  i thought to myself my god even i a pauper living  

in a shack i'm not afraid of paulson and you the  president are afraid of this bully paulson i don't  

get it at all i really don't get on the other  hand let's let's look let's look at bush senior  

big time war hero athlete yale skull and  bones uh so there's something to them not much  

i i got to agree with rob on this the two of  them have more depth on their hands than uh  

than necessary and i don't care how many books  george w bush you know draws of fallen soldiers so  

he could reconcile his own inner damage he's the  one that set them on that trail to get meme and to  

get murdered and that and and msnbc the station  that he's on was calling him a nazi at the time  

the idea that any bush or they're not  all alive now would appear on msnbc is  

extremely puzzling that's mysterious  and think about and think about this  

george bush george w bush's wife has accounted  for more deaths than donald trump did  

when i don't understand well i don't think  i don't think she was drunk but i mean  

i'm not smart when i say that i mean they act  like this guy is the devil because he didn't  

play by their rules because people were inspired  by him because he wasn't them they were somebody  

that wasn't them and they can't stand it but  with all due respect i know mrs bush i consider  

her friend she's certainly a friend of my wife's  she she was a high school girl when this happened  

she had just had a big fight with her boyfriend  uh she wasn't driving carefully we've all driven  

badly we've had fights with our boyfriend or  girlfriend so i i mean that doesn't make her  

a murderer or any or anything remotely like that  i'm not saying it does ben but what i'm saying is  

they act like trump is this horrific human being  right and it's just totally hypocritical because  

is responsible for tens of thousands of people  going to the most horrific deaths humanly possible  

well uh he's president so he's allowed to do that  but uh you're right he he made a serious mistake  

going into uh iraq it was a very very serious  mistake very very serious mistake and uh i  

i do not say it's a very serious mistake i think  we all now see it was a very serious mistake i  

don't know if you know this but just before the  the war started saddam hussein made a public offer  

that he would if they would if we would  let him stay in office he would have  

a heavy-duty contingent of the u.s marines or  an army or a special horse or somebody like that  

standing around him they would be his guards  making sure he didn't do anything bad for the  

indefinite future if they just let him stay in  office that would have been an awfully good deal  

yeah i think so and and and just to get to  what the point rob was making is all these  

people like to put themselves on pedestals above  trump and by proxy by pro on a pedestal above us  

all of these people have skeletons in their  you know those who you know that expressions  

shouldn't throw stones at glass out whatever that  expression is that i'm a little tired and i can't  

think of that they should stop looking down on  us and i don't think i i really was with respect  

to you judah who is such a dear friend i i i and  rob whom i still is already considered a dear  

friend i i don't think they're looking down at you  i think they they they are not properly educated  

i think it's been a long time since we have had a  president who really was educated especially about  

foreign affairs i would say certainly since nixon  nobody's ever come close to the understanding and  

facility about foreign affairs that richard nixon  had and uh i i certainly certainly in this century  

nobody in the 20th century rather nobody ever came  close to the facility that mr nixon and he was  

treated just incredibly badly by the republican  party and by the media and a friend of mine a  

very smart young woman just showed me a packet  of newspapers she saved from the alaskan nixon's  

last days in office which quotes about how uh he  was going to be kicked out of office and he was  

irredeemably bad we're coming from republicans  we're coming from barry goldwater of all people  

and you ben stein my friend i have to disagree  with you because i would say on foreign policy  

there's been no better president since nixon you  could say than donald trump no no i said since  

nixon certainly right we we have had a president  in this century that's been a great foreign policy  

i think i said the 20th century that's right okay  my bad um 21st century um and on that note if you  

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and of course ben stein and i want everybody to  understand something and i always say this and  

and this is one of my favorite things about doing  this show is we don't always agree with each other  

and that's what separates us from them that that  if you're on the left you have to the rabbit hole  

goes deeper and deeper and deeper every day of  what you have to go be okay with and today it's  

maxine or yesterday was maxine waters pretty  much calling for violence on americans and  

we choose not to live like that and be like that  and have discourse but when i go can i go on from  

from that uh if i may so something that i want  to say on this day when uh mr shelvin or officer  

chauvin or whatever it rang his rank was i was  uh convicted of several different very serious  

counts of homicide um let's hope that this is  a launch pad for not for condemning the police  

for saying there's one bad apple and most of  the police are incredibly wonderful brave men  

and women and let's not be caught up in a  groundswell of hatred towards the police  

because this one guy acted not just badly but  very badly apparently according to the jury  

and by the way i sure would not have wanted to be  on that jury but anyway and uh that's uh so let's  

let's let's use this as an opportunity to say yes  this this fellow was a very unfortunate person at  

least so far as we know uh and uh but the police  generally save our butts every hour of every day  

every single day and way more cops are injured  in the line of duty than unarmed black men or  

unarmed white people or unarmed anybody or on on  a yearly you could do the multiples of it and rob  

they are making a hero of uh of floyd and um you  know that's really happening by the way judah judy  

judas showed me a whole bunch of no  i'm sorry oh i saw these on my phone  

all these democrats all over the country are  saying that mr floyd was a hero excuse me  

a victim for sure no doubt about no doubt  about a victim but this was a man with a  

lengthy criminal record including some acts of  horrifying violence and uh i mean he wasn't as  

if this was the lord jesus christ being crucified  this was a very seriously uh derelict human being  

should not should not have had what happened to  happen but uh you know he's not he's not not a  

saint he's not anyone though but i want to get  into something so you have these two numb spells  

rob and then biden and harris both basically  saying this is systemic racism this will root  

out systemic racism and the just the fact  that people thought they voted in a black  

woman means we don't have systemic racism and just  the fact that this jury rob came back with it with  

with a guilty verdict when it was sick white  judgment several goals everyone great three counts  

should prove that there's no systemic racism it's  like an amazing thing every day they make these  

claims of systemic racism and every day we have  proof rob that there aren't isn't systemic races  

yeah well but but proof doesn't matter anymore and  look this dude knew he was guilty that's why he  

tried to plead the third degree murder last year  and what floors me is even though everybody knew  

he was guilty that they went to such great lengths  i mean i was watching fox news during the coverage  

and almost to a person every one of them led  by andrew mccarthy ben i don't know if you  

know andrew mccarthy though i don't i'm afraid for  fox news he said look they really ran a risk here  

of on appeal getting this thing overturned because  of all these things that took place and repeatedly  

whether it was the city publicly settling this  lawsuit right before the trial started the maxi  

water stuff the joe biden stuff not moving the  trial out of minneapolis you had the judge repeat  

you know on several of these issues talking about  it that they didn't need to taint the jury pool  

it was blatantly obvious this guy was and  here's my biggest question that i just thought  

and i thought about earlier today i want  to ask you ben the jury wasn't sequestered  

how in a case like this could you not have a  sequestered jury so they're out and they all  

promised that they didn't watch the news over the  weekend i mean just by proxy of having this phone  

you get updates you get google updates you get  some sort of updates on our phones okay ben  

that none of these people saw what maxine waters  said over the weekend is an impossibility even  

espn was covering this so even if you're  a sports fan you were watching this ben  

well the trial should have been moved out  of minneapolis uh there's all these comments  

certainly tainted any possible jury pool but i  would say uh a little more frightening than that  

is that all of america was terrorized and  terrified by the possibility of gigantic riots  

and looting and civil unrest and less guilty  verdicts on the highest possible level of charges  

were uh were found and so america was held hostage  by uh the uh by a group of violent domestic people  

way more so than we ever were by the nazis  or the japanese or even the soviet russians  

and that's a terrifying thought i mean that  that to me is uh really very very close to  

the death sentence for america yeah it's it's  going to be very interesting on appeal because  

there's zero way in the modern era like you  said judah that even if you tried to avoid  

the news it's not the way it used to be well  just don't watch tv don't read the paper and  

you'll probably be all right leave your radio on  you know classic hits and it'll be okay there's  

there's no way those people there could have  avoided it not i'm not even saying it's any fault  

of their own there were just a lot of things  here that seemed like they let it let it open  

on appeal that this could be overturned which  is the worst thing possible that could happen  

and by the way there is no appellate court judge  in america who has the courage to overturn this  

verdict i mean i i personally think uh there's  there are grounds for appeal and retrial  

well here's not a great expert in this area i  don't pretend to be a great expert in this area  

but why but but no no everybody's everybody's  scared to death of uh urban uh antifa and someone  

someone just texted in onto the screen that antifa  is the brown shirts of the democrat party and of  

the modern era and i'm afraid that's true we now  have an america which people are just terrified of  

uh the blacks and the brown shirts and uh people  are just uh terrified i've never seen america  

in a climate of fear such as the one we have  now and you constantly talk about what they were  

doing the constitution in a little over 90 days  first amendment second amendment fifth amendment  

sixth amendment fourteenth amendment okay  so that's the sixth is due process the fifth  

and fourteen have to do with a fair trial  that the jury basically shouldn't be tainted  

and there's not that there's no way after there's  no way this jury couldn't have been tainted that  

there's i mean it's it's an impossibility and a  and you're right no no judge is going to hear this  

case no i mean they would have to put him like  with a call you know a black face and have his  

voice changed and you know one of those holograms  basically because no judge rob in their right mind  

is ever going to touch this case no too scary too  scary too scary and by the way this i'm sorry rob  

i interrupted you i beg reporter no no no no  i just i i just find it uh just amazing though  

that the links they went to when they didn't  have to because he knew he did something right  

i mean you don't you don't volunteer  to plead guilty to third degree murder  

if you didn't do something and that's the thing of  it all it's it's it's look justice was served here  

george floyd should not have died he's not a great  guy he's not somebody that should be celebrated  

but the the cop did shaman did something  inappropriate the justice system but we don't  

but we don't get our cities back now right oh  that's really good that is really really good  

that's really really good that is really really  really good now it's funny you say that because  

many of the time on this wonderful program i have  said people should if they have their wits about  

them move to north idaho but my friends in north  idaho now tell me that there's nothing for sale  

that everybody everybody from new york and boston  and san francisco and oakland and portland and  

seattle have bought everything there so you can't  now you can't move there so it's too late sorry  

uh and and and that was the great promise i mean  i and i want people to realize that i i have to  

be careful how i phrase this because i don't  want another episode being banned but a lot of  

suburban women for sure voted for safety thinking  that they were the great lyra that when biden and  

harris come in we wouldn't be living in fear  of antifa and of you know the brown shirts and  

blm and everything was just going to be go back  that was like the great lie right you know people  

talk about the great reset they thought would be  great reset the to the president that's sort of a  

whatever that looks in this suit and we're  in far more dangerous land right now than  

rob than we have been in a long time yeah  very very dangerous uh very dangerous even uh  

yeah very very very scary and control of  the control of the control all the media  

control of the political mechanism although i  think again for the millionth time we have a  

chance of getting that back in the next uh  election of the house of representatives uh  

maybe maybe uh but uh with it's an uphill  battle always with the media against us  

but uh i i i i live most of the time in a very  very nice neighborhood and i i have to say even  

i in this very nice neighborhood i'm in fear a lot  of the time and uh give us back our cities what  

what happened i mean what what happened all as  judah said our constitution that's our real shield  

my wifey and i have a home in a gated community  two two homes in two different gated communities  

we won't be able to afford them as well but wifey  and i have them but the real gated gates and uh  

are is the constitution and and that's just being  ripped apart ripped to shreds by the by the biden  

administration and by its lackeys in various other  parts of the government and the media and on that  

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1 bam the future conservative talk radio and of  course the future of conservatism and the past  

of conservatism how many people could say that  benjamin jeremy stein and i want to get really  

get into this quickly ben because i don't  want this to get glossed over right so we have  

we have one story already with the bounties that  was the bunk that was brought against trump that  

was used to sort of help may i ask you to explain  to our fine viewers and listeners what that was  

because that that's a huge story which has now  sort of disappeared and i'm not sure russia where  

russia was being accused of putting bounties  on our troops and in afghanistan while mr trump  

was making nice with mr putin uh the new york  times accused the russians of putting bounties  

on our troops such that they would pay some large  sum to anyone who killed a u.s soldier and that  

and and so so the the conclusion being so it's  disgusting that in that circumstance mr trump  

is making nice with uh putin turned out that  it was all made up right and so and that was  

from the same intel community that told us about  weapons of mass destruction apparently um but now  

we get this thing with this guy with the police  um what's his name sicknick the the capitol hill  

police officer who sadly died they had to have  known on january sixth and a half as he was in  

the hospital or the day after that he died  that it was a of a stroke ben and rob not of  

getting hit in the head with a fire extinguisher  which never happened doctors could tell pretty  

much very quickly i'm guessing i'm not a forensic  specialist i don't play one on tv but i'm guessing  

they would have known almost three and a half  months ago how this guy died and it's just another  

one of these lies and these myths that's you know  once it's out there there's no taking it back

scary again the unchecked  power of the media think of  

think of the various people we're dealing with who  have unchecked power media nobody holds an account  

prosecutors nobody holds into account judges  nobody holds them to account president of the  

united states if he's a democrat nobody holds into  account uh uh blm uh as long as there's black as  

long as they're black nobody holds them  into account it's a very scary situation  

uh your humble servant wah spent most of last  night watching a long and very very interesting  

documentary uh about the uh post civil war  uh treatment of uh african-american freedom  

fighters and their white oppressors and it was  really heartbreakingly sad how um it's called  

reconstruction and a heartbreaking set how black  americans were treated just unbelievably shameful  

the way black americans were treated for such  a long time after the civil war heartbreaking  

but the great triumph of america is that we have  gone way past that and instead of celebrating that  

there's ever more trouble making i i i just don't  understand why why people can't say well we've  

made great great progress i i get big i said  no there's no money in there there's no money  

in praising america and there's no and there's  no votes you don't win elections you don't win  

drop so aren't you as much fascinated by the fact  that this took three and a half months to get up  

well i think i'm more fascinated in the lack of  inquisitive ness i don't know is inquisitiveness a  

word that sounds like a word a lack of inquisitive  nature how about that by people like mitt romney  

and susan collins and lisa burkowski who and this  goes for the public in general because we saw it  

in the this derrick chavin trial too there's  no way you went through all the evidence that  

volume of evidence and the amount of time it took  for them to come to a verdict not saying they got  

to the wrong conclusion but when you guys life in  your hands you got to do the research that is a  

great point that is a really great point what was  it like 20 hours less than 20 hours yeah because  

of course the blm and the other people in the  streets had a gun to their head and i have to  

say if i were living in minneapolis i would be  sad at the death of the freedom and of our city  

but very very glad that our city was not burned  to the ground now now in fairness they did put in  

about five times the amount of deliberations the  oj jury did but but well that was a that was a  

i believe if i may say this i mean might be wrong  that was an all black jury right and oj and well i  

know for a fact that it was and so that was a very  very clear racial gerryman gerrymandering but uh  

this jury was was racially mixed but still i  would have been terrified to be on that jury  

and i think everybody on that jury was terrified  to be on a journey i mean they they had the camera  

on him during that whole thing and shaving and  he barely blinked like he knew what was going to  

happen there was no emotion whatsoever he knew  walking in there what that verdict was going  

to be wasn't emotional when they cuffed him and  took him away and again i'm not saying they got  

to the wrong conclusion but how in the hell do  you hear weeks worth of evidence and and in that  

amount of time just go yeah okay i think he's  guilty i mean on all three counts and not even  

and not even question because because which with  each count comes a different form of or different  

way of your brain thinking and a different and  a different logic into it now we know the guy  

you know we know through the whole  story and obviously we all saw the  

the the situation occur but there is nuance and we  we forget there is nuance in situations and derek  

chovin could have said i mean there there's  a case to be made that he lost his damn mind  

okay that he was sitting there because who  in their right mind would do what he did  

for nine minutes and and i have to say if you're  a cop or a police officer you are put into certain  

states that could take you that could distort  your reality for moments that's just my humble  

opinion i think you're totally right and i think  it's amazing that uh we don't recognize that and  

we don't give more uh thanks to the police this  is a very bad bad day for the police but we can  

turn it around and say uh yes we recognize there  was a bad actor there but uh we we also recognize  

that we depend moment by moment of all of our  lives on the heroism of the police but the same  

thing is true the lack of inquisitiveness and the  lack of effort put into the double deliberation  

for a romney and a bin sas and all of these people  who voted romney i mean romney isn't even a person

it's great to hear ben stein say that  you could put that on your show rob  

um but no you're completely right i mean you have  romney sas the ass you have you know the other the  

other you know tinker bell over there and uh  you know the few others that that and and you  

had 10 i think democrats i mean 10 republicans  in the house that voted for impeachment that  

didn't look at this situation and say you  know and again as ben always says it's to be  

liked because they would rather be liked than  than than hated or because they think somehow  

this makes them okay realize never realizing ben  it never makes you okay no matter how much you  

capitulate to the nazis if you're a jew you're  still a jew you might be murdered a little later  

okay that's your best hope rob and um it's  it's just that it's a great point you raise  

her up the 20 hours that's all it took for them  i don't think it was even 20 hours right there  

they probably did it in like half an hour and  the judge is like you know guys we need you to  

be in there a little longer make it look like  you're actually doing something they didn't  

ask for evidence they didn't ask for anything  everything that you see in a normal court case  

these not one juror had a question this was the  most uninquisitive jury i've ever seen in my life  

and again incredible you did not have to see a  review of videotape photographs are autonomously  

important nothing that's that's unheard of i mean  those of us who are great fans of the wonderful  

wonderful tv show forensic files know that rarely  happened boy that is a great show right that's yes  

forensic files one of the best shows of one of the  best shows of all time that narrator is one of the  

greatest narrators of all time i honestly believe  forensic files might be the top 10 greatest shows  

of all time um but i want to flip it a little  bit ben because now you have all these different  

things you have gavin newsom now coming out and  saying this is this is and you can't make this  

stuff up it's about toxic masculinity i i thought  that was the way i thought that was his wife  

although same thing okay i know it's not quite  the same thing i believe that was his wife who  

said that i'm not well i mean i think i was his  wife who said that you were the one yeah so so  

his wife i mean you i mean but the systemic racism  thing and all this this this strummed up nonsense  

and and and and to what and i brought this up with  rob the other day um and he's actually he spoke  

about it i believe on the air too the mba ratings  are down by 50 then 50 from last year which was  

down like 30 from the year before all sports right  now the nfl basically said we're doubling down on  

wokeness we're doubling down on all these things  and eventually you know that you talk about the  

fiduciary duty eventually people are going to be  like uh you know coca-cola didn't speak about this  

at their quarterly meeting they refused i believe  to take questions and answers on this so that's

tell me because i'm an old man what by the  way that's very funny i'm an old man a woman  

sent me very risque pictures  of herself i barely know her  

and said that would i send her money and i said  well i didn't know you or anything and said ah so  

you're not going to send me money because you're  a pathetic sad lonely old man anyway so no the  

same thing happened to me somebody asked me for  pictures pictures she wanted money anyway okay  

let's i have a definition from you two smart  gentlemen of what is woke ness what does that mean

rob

and i got to tell you ben that's a great  question yeah i i think i think it is a a a  

fear of uh being judged in society and coming  up with a belief system for what oftentimes  

borders on or eclipses into insanity in order  to not offend a very large group of crazy people

okay that's very that's very  very good so i'll answer it now  

so rob has more time to think about his answer and  then we could get your answer because i believe  

it is a a a a a a symptom a mental disorder that  crosses between borderline personality disorder  

narcissism everything and it basically every day  you wake up and just misery i don't know i i i i  

don't even it's just you're miserable people and  i've said this to you why are people that are so  

woke so asleep why are they the most boring  humans joyless humans because if you think about  

it ben right when somebody is woke right that  should be like you know they're they're they're  

they're hip they're john but in this case  it's the opposite but i'll let you explain it  

since you i don't know what  it is either but i would say  

it is an attempt to endlessly kiss the behinds  of african americans and uh whether or not  

whether or not they want it and we we had a  guest on this show quite recently a young man  

with a very interesting moustache who said  that uh black men in america are the most  

conservative distinctive ethnic and age group in  america but somehow that does not seem to have  

uh most conservatives not most of them doesn't  have a mustache they're gone well i beg your  

board uh so um so by the way we can't prove it  because he's the video that got banned but go  

on oh you're kidding no i'm kidding no i swear  so yes we either has one or he does who knows  

i i i wonder uh if i were a one of these people  how i would feel about this uh endless wokeness  

uh or whether i would feel it was condescending  i just i just wonder i mean i wonder how they  

feel about it i just don't know what the answer  that is but um the whole thing of america uh  

just endlessly walking around kissing the ass of  african-americans i find very troublesome and i i  

i do not doubt for a minute that african-americans  were very badly mistreated in america for a long  

long time a long shockingly long time but  things have improved so much it's kind of  

amazes me that now there's people are more angry  than ever about it okay so i want to go back to  

rob onto what he said because it's an important  thing because i sort of was agreeing with the  

sentiment it's not that they're conservatives  they the many in the african-american community  

in the black community um align very much  so with the christian right in their beliefs  

right their anti-gay marriage their anti-abortion  they're there they have certain of the common  

themes of the christian right now being in the  christian right and the evangelicals who i love  

it doesn't mean that's conservatism okay they  vote republican because that's who who picks  

the better with the supposed better judges so  ben i don't listen i don't want to say they're  

conservatives in the sense of you and i be and rob  being conservatives they're closer to with their  

certain beliefs to the christian right or the  evangelicals but then in in that case in that case  

i was under the impression that christian wright  was overwhelmingly republican yes these people  

at least vote overwhelmingly democrat so yeah  that's the that's the puzzle that i wonder about  

but but how racist is so much of the wokeness  and so much of the platform of the democrat  

party i mean think about what they're saying in  georgia they're basically saying black people are  

too stupid to come up with an id it's super racist  well the whole thing is the whole idea of wokeness  

is super racist yeah and the whole idea of look go  back to my friend maxine waters and her idea that  

if you take a black child as a human being same  biologically as a white human being the same a  

roughly same age and put the black human being  next to a white unit that black human being will  

understand better learn better read better be able  to do mathematics better that that was i thought  

extremely contemptuous of black americans and i  want to raise a point though just it's because  

because people always talk about term limits  and i just thought in my head the day maxine  

waters resigns or dies or whatever her daughter  is just going to run for her seat he won't die  

do nothing no no but i'm saying and whenever it is  her daughter or her grandkid or somebody else of  

that nature will just take over the oligarchy  of the compton district um rob i'm sorry for  

interrupting you no no and you made a great point  we had that happen here when on when julia carson  

passed away who'd been a congresswoman forever and  what happens her grandson andre carson who's an  

even bigger lunatic than she was is in the it's  it's it's now it's now this this dynasty thing  

where husbands wives wasn't it dingle that passed  away and his wife just takes over the sea mary  

bona yeah oh from my very own desert coachella  valley yay which we love so very very much  

yeah i mean this this i mean you're you're you're  right to to that extent but the the thing is like  

if i'm an african-american i'm looking at the way  the language they actually use and what they're  

actually saying and a lot of this woke liberal  leftist policy and i'm looking at this going as  

an independent thinker you think i'm an idiot and  i'm and i'm too incompetent to do the functions  

of society why would i support those people well  but but somehow it's working it's working for them  

it's it's it's it's it's it's okay so here's  the perfect example right we you know michael  

jordan has always said you know republicans buy  sneakers too so we we ben and i ben and myself  

live in hollywood we live in this area rob where  you have a bunch of actors that have ostracized  

at least 50 percent of their fan base  right which goes against all rational  

thinking of not offending 50 percent of  your fan base no no normal human being  

would be that stupid and yet they are that stupid  and it it's it's very hard to understand it's  

you know i don't know what else to say about  that but it's extremely frustrating and it's  

ben stein it's extremely hard to understand  they'd rather be the belle of the ball  

well it's the whole thing is only understandable  as an incredibly cunning marxist tactic to use  

guilt over race to overturn the greatest society  there's ever been in the history of the world  

we have this one loose string there's a big string  one loose string which was racism of long ago  

and they pulled on and pulled out and pulled  on and soon the whole blanket became unraveled  

and that is an incredibly clever marxist tactic uh  it really is evil uh the people i talk to nowadays  

who have children in school or who are in school  themselves are thoroughly infected with this  

nauseating uh trick and nauseating deprivation of  free speech and it's it's desperately frightening  

to think how quickly free speech has disappeared  especially on the campuses has completely  

disappeared from what i hear tell which i i i  haven't taught for a while but that's from what i  

could tell right and and maybe the scariest thing  is it's not enough to just not be racist anymore  

it's not just enough to be a good person it's  not just that isn't enough anymore now you have  

to demand other people not only not be racist but  that other people should be treated differently  

and that's like that is super scary and i keep  asking this question on air and i don't really  

ever get a straight answer to it what do i have to  be sorry about my great great grandfather fought  

in the civil war for the union my grandfather  fought world war ii for the freedom of all people  

my family doesn't have a racist bone in their  body one of my best friends i do radio with on  

a regular basis is african american i've employed  african americans in my businesses that i've owned  

what do i have to feel sorry about  and why should i feel bad and suffer  

uh you are totally right but that's the  incredible genius of this marxist tactic  

because it takes people who are nowhere near  as smart as you are who have should be nowhere  

near the moral sense that you do and it works  on them it works on people who are not very  

smart or well informed i mean the people i know  who have been bought this hook line and sinker  

are generally speaking not very well in foreign  people and uh there's a psychological part of this  

i've discussed this before and i think it's  true and george orwell had the two men and hate  

several times a day in oceania uh uh under big  brother and everyone would stand out in the  

uh in the public spaces out of hate hate hate and  i it lines up their personalities it organizes  

their personalities they're having a bad day  if they're having they're upset about something  

uh if they're constipated whatever it is if  they say hate hate enough it lines up their  

personality and that i'm afraid is very much what  happens in the united states of america right now  

but you know here's the thing ben you raise a  great point and it's happening in high schools too  

it's called descent it's called elementary  schools i have a dear friend it's a dear dear  

friend whose daughter's in elementary school but  i i wanted to get to the thing of dissent okay  

dissent so ben i want you to share this story with  everybody ben was uh the valedictorian of his uh  

of his yale law school class well where is it  where is it where is it was it by election of  

my classmates not by grades i did not my grades  tell everybody what it is you did to the teacher  

well this teacher was our anti-trust teacher and  he was he used the socratic method which is to ask  

impossibly complex questions to which there  is no answer and uh then sort of make you feel  

stupid for not knowing the answer and uh i was  in this class and uh i raised my hand when he  

wanted somebody to answer one of his impossible  questions and uh yeah he said what's what's your  

name and i said well you can call me benji and i  said no no he said no your last name and i said  

you can just call me benji and i said he said  well what's the answer and i said sir there is  

no answer you know it very well it's just more of  these nauseating socratic method mind games you  

guys play the screw over our heads and if you  don't stop doing it right now i'm going to stand  

up and take my clothes off in class and he was  so upset that he i said some more things too that  

are really quite unbelievable incorrect now but  he's so upset he stood up and walked out of class  

quit at yale quit at yale law school and went  down to new york to be a the highest-paid  

anti-trust lawyer and history so you both sort of  see something very similar in the sense that yeah  

you both left or got fired from a position that  ended up changing your life so much for the better  

you know you got him to quit he made up he you  know he built the name and rumsfeld you know  

asked you to leave nicely the white house  and you went on to a great career but the  

point i'm i was trying to make is dissent was  allowed yes okay yes a yale especially may i say  

they were so good to us they were so unbelievably  good with us bulldog bulldog bow wow wow  

eli yale they were so incredibly good to us my  wifey and i used to wander around that campus we  

were as happy as clams we were so happy you can't  imagine but now you you're beaten into the thought  

that you can't even rob you can't even dissent  you if you ask a question that goes against  

the brain you will fail right when i was in  college right i remember offending a teacher  

because i hated the kennedys and i didn't realize  to the left the kennedys were these with it was  

this dynasty but even in that case i didn't  realize i was offending his god but even in men  

he was still a good guy and we managed to figure  out a good solution rob now kids are teachers are  

nuts and kids are probably terrified to ask how  many kids are going to say why do i need a mask  

then move up then move up a letter it's like it's  like this incremental thing by the time you're 22  

we are going to have a nation rob of the  most uninquisitive minds of generations  

yeah my girlfriend i were having this conversation  earlier about why young people are so stupid  

and and she asked and i said well  think about it if you're indoctrinated  

for basically the first 12 years of your  life through the public education system  

16 if you include college by the time you're  22 or 23 years old your entire existence has  

been one school of thought and if you have a whole  large group of people with one school of thought  

no one's challenging each other so by the time  you're in an environment where you get challenged  

you're so offended by being challenged that you  don't even want to engage when the challenge is  

what it's all about because it makes you a better  thinker and a better person and a better under the  

heading of thinker and person student a better  student i mean the fact that i mean when i said  

when i then became one of the leaders of the  anti-war and pro-black panther movement at yale  

and uh i was questioned and argued against by very  very clever conservatives there were several in  

the class and they were very clever and i and i  admired them and they were very smart and we're  

still friends after all these years uh now i  don't think i i don't know if that could happen  

rob somebody asks you tell them about chrome  play and hamilton sc i don't know what that is  

i guess you uh so carmel carmel and hamilton  southeastern are two suburbs of indianapolis  

they're in hamilton county arguably the most  wealthy county in the entire state of indiana  

and their rapid now it's a republican county  it's rapidly becoming more blue but they are  

involved in some of the most woke uh critical race  theory bullcrap that's going on right now in the  

public education system in the entire state in  republican areas and the superintendents and the  

school boards they are just completely  out in the open about it and i would  

be scared to death to send my kid to hamilton  southeastern or carmel right now it's amazing  

wow wow wow wow wow wow no i mean it's it's it's  it's like this viciously mad world uh you know  

you have kids that are being indoctrinated you're  gonna have 16 year old kids that think it's okay  

for a boy to become a girl a girl to become a boy  at the age of eight you could give kids all these  

things that you know you know so they don't hit  puberty so i mean we are living in frightening  

scary ass times and if anyone questions what  happens you lose you lose you lose a tournament  

you lose your right of business in your community  that's what the threats are right now what's going  

on and it's going to take a lot of senators  and it's going to take people of courage  

and there are some but it's going to take  a hell of a lot more of people with courage  

and people with with self-fortitude and  strength to say this is this is not right  

this is what we have here is what we  got here is a failure to communicate  

and good good good good thank you and it's  really going to take a lot of that and  

uh we are running out of time i want to  remind everybody we'll always be here  

i can't promise what youtube's going to do we  will reach you in one way or the other uh but  

we are honored and privileged that you that you uh  watch and listen so great always be please please  

remember deeply grateful we put the podcast up the  next day it's for you know please we're not here  

to make money off we just ask that you download  it give us a nice review a semi-nice review  

just a good review that's all we asked for  and um so just that we can keep on going we  

live on reviews and um but on that note i  want ben to finish up with something else  

ben two people that you've met in your life i  want to bring up two points actually two people  

you've brought met in your life actually said  they were the valedictorian the same year as you  

two people wrong got caught two one a very  very very very successful wildly scheduled  

screenwriter tell the story that's an incredibly  successful a fair fairly successful movie producer  

let's say the story of the writer i mean i  don't know for a while here i was a producer  

i was really really a wizard of thinking of story  lines and i would get studios to put up money for  

me to hire a writer to write a script of it and  so we were interviewing writers and i interviewed  

this one very successful famous writer and i  just making conversation asking his background  

and he said well he was a lawyer by training i  asked him where he went to law school he said  

yale i said really he said yeah i said may i ask  when he said yeah class of 1970 i was really good  

at it i was valedictorian of the class and i said  well sir with the greatest respect i was in that  

class and i was valedictorian and what's going  on here and he had the incredible nerve to say  

is this a job interview or are we playing 20  questions and the other guy not only said he  

was out of credible class at yale but i don't  he was an actual studio an actual studio head  

really crazy and by the way brother please don't  be scared we will be here i didn't mean to scare  

you we will be here at the same time thursday  night there's no doubt in my mind um i don't  

want to say that um and i never say never but  uh ben thank you for that wonderful story about  

uh about your valedictorian class and i want to  say when we first started this part of the reason  

rob we wanted to do this and why i enjoy when  you're on so much other than you being brilliant  

and handsome and very handsome and it just just an  all-out gorgeous fellow is that you're inquisitive  

about ben and i really appreciate that um because  i've got to be inquisitive of ben stein for 18  

years i've gotten to find out some of the coolest  stories and the whole idea when we started this  

was to sort of be the chronicles so one night  a week we are going to devote to sort of ben's  

biography of his life and i know for some it's not  going to be politics but one night a week because  

ben's got some of the coolest stories in the world  from his father to his grandfather to his cousins  

it's endless amounts of stories that need to  be recorded for prospect for press say the  

word and early prosperity and they need to be  told and i i've done to hear them for 18 years  

and that's what and rob you're always invited on  that show because i love and your father bring  

your father on those shows rob too because i would  love to hear the questions that he has for him i  

and on that note i want to thank everybody that's  been listening in the youtube chat it's been  

great download the podcast we will see you here  thursday night anything to scare you never be  

scared and when you're right never be scared and  on that note i want to thank rob kendall from 931  

um wibc bam the future of conservative talk  radio robin great as always and of course  

the show wouldn't be complete you can find ben  armparler at bensteinspectator.org we salute  

you if you'd like to sing us out that would be  amazing but you're well she's real fine my 409.  

she's real fine my 409 my 409 well i saved my  pennies down i saved my dimes giddy up giddy  

up 409 for i knew there would be a time me up  giddy up 409 but i would buy a brand new 409.  

wanna bend one of these days you're gonna  have to sing a song that we both know that  

we could sing along to and on that note god bless  everybody have a great night god bless even max

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