The World According To Ben Stein

Re-fund The Police!

Episode Summary

Every single police union in the United States should boycott all protection details for professional sporting events. For that matter, police should simply step back from putting down unruly protests and riots. You wan liberation from the police? Great. They want liberation from you, too. Good luck! On tonight’s episode of “The World According to Ben Stein.

Episode Transcription

come here come here glenn

glenn we need your help fine

no i don't i don't see it at the uh at your  page is that up yet we are live right now  

on youtube we are live i'm coming to you from  beverly hills california center of the universe

yes this is the uh this is the center of the  universe for everybody out there we're also coming  

live from a houseboat and live from somewhere  unknown but i want to welcome everybody to the  

world according to that man benjamin jeremy stein  we are joined tonight by an iconic class they're  

not with two iconic class um obviously but we have  ken mccord from media action network former fox  

news the man and uh media action network i want to  thank everybody that's watching and listening in  

youtube chat i want to thank everybody that's been  downloading our podcast at a rapid pace it means  

the world to us um and ken lacorde in one sentence  tell people what media action network does oh if  

you're tired of whining about the liberal media  and are looking for ways to punch back join up  

with us over at the media action network dot com  and uh and uh and we'll give a smack or two back  

you should my mother-in-law is a new fresh  cup i've told you my mother loves that here

and of course this show wouldn't be complete  without a creak in the background of a door  

that needs wd-40 um but of course uh lawyer  actor provocateur center economist saint  

center father grandfather husband uh former shoe  salesman doctor doctor doctor swimwear doctor  

uh novelist essayist a stock market commentator  whose predictions have been startlingly true  

and let's see what else no expert witness and  very very complex financial fraud cases and  

fiduciary duty cases and that's a lot that's  that's that's how come i'm able to live here  

and not a braggart at all um but welcome to the  world according to that man benjamin jeremy stein  

and i gotta tell you guys i right off the bat  right off the bat and i know ken and i was talking  

with ben about this before the show we're two jews  so we feel free to say whatever sometimes we want  

we're not scared of the uh racist tag or the the  you know with those things because we're jews  

you know so wait wait wait wait  what you guys were struggling  

i think you're missing a why you're missing a beat  here in this argument why why does the fact that  

we're jews make us not afraid of being called  racist i mean well because i feel as a minority  

that's been shat on for many for many a few  centuries i don't give a i don't give a crap  

what people say back to me but i i really want  to get to the gym so there you are i would what  

i i really do might give a crap when people say  about me but you don't but ben you you write stuff  

all the time that it talks about race you're  willing all the time it cannot be part of that  

i only write it if i think it's true and i think  if i think it's important and helpful to everyone  

involved but i want to get right to this uh lebron  james thing because it really ate me at my core it  

what he he for people that are unaware of this  he sent out a tweet um to the police officer  

from columbus ohio to his 50 million um twitter  followers saying you're next and then please tell  

us who the guy in columbus ohio is please there  was the police officer that came upon the scene  

saw a black female trying to stab another  black female and he shot her four times and um  

you know people are like why are you using a  taser but that's not the point the point is you  

have this guy lebron james who who obviously he's  one of the greatest basketball players of all time  

but edible player but but just a stone cold what  a i mean i hate to say what if we said that but  

the the call for violence or the call for terror  on these police officers right now ben stein is  

absolutely frightening it is terrifying and to  think that lebron james a person who is not only  

an incredible athlete but whom many people  look up as an example of good sportsmanship  

and of moral decency is being a bully a thug  and a nasty awful guy in this case is shocking  

i mean he saved apparently another young black  girl for being stabbed to death the policeman did  

why is he being threatened why is anybody mad at  him at all a crazed person was going after a young  

black girl with a giant knife why would anyone be  mad at a police officer who saves the potential  

victim's life it just doesn't make any sense at  all and why lebron james would say that doesn't  

make any sense at all i mean he's a terribly rich  guy he's a terribly successful guy i'm sure he  

has a magnificent home many magnificent homes i'm  sure he has all the women that he could ever want  

in his life so he has many fabulous cars he lives  in the best country there ever was on this planet  

what is he talking about what's he talking about  what is he doing well ken lacorde i want to say  

this to you so we all know what intersectionality  is so they have to choose no we don't know sir so  

you see you assume that we're we we all know  everything i i don't know intersectionality is  

except i know it's an excuse for anti-semitism  it's a level it's your grievance level in life  

so if you're let's say you're a lesbian you're  higher on the scale than if you're a straight  

woman if you're a black lesbian you're even  higher on the intersectionality scale if you're a  

disabled black lesbian you're like the trifecta of  intersectionality see i don't think that's what it  

is i think intersectionality is when you take  a number of different agree grievances supposed  

grievances and even if there is no outward  appearance of harm you still say there's harm  

um i have a different point of view  

that ken is making a gesture again i got no i  just thought it was some gay thing i didn't know  

but that's it that's all you got for us ken yeah  yeah now you guys are defining the word great go  

ahead no go oh well going back to lebron  james i mean look obviously he's kind of  

a dope obviously he's uh uh you know he's big and  strong and i guess a great basketball player uh um

you know it is it is reflex by everyone  

on in a certain political side and certainly  the left and certainly the black left to  

be eagerly anticipating every time a a black  person is shot by a cop and and and trying to  

build up their false narrative that blacks are  being hunted down in america and it's just not  

that way at all and and they get political power  out of that and political strength out of that and  

it's all a bunch of it's all a bunch of hui it's  it's used by the political types there i mean look  

lebron james if he cared about people well anyway  i i don't get too personally i rate overlook what  

what any dopey basketball player says but  uh uh it was bad it was a threat he is a bad  

thinker and the problem with all of this is it's  all hurting the people they profess to be wanting  

to help exactly right because you look if i'm  a if i'm a cop and i'm white i am i'm one of  

those two things man what next time i hear oh hey  there's a you know there's a a a woman they got  

the 911 call who said you know there's there's  somebody who's stabbing people here it's like  

you know i think i'm going to finish my doughnut  they're going to start i was going to bring that

criminals are being empowered  and cops are being disempowered  

and you're seeing the crime rates in  mainstream cities start to skyrocket

it's more than starting to skyrocket it has  skyrocketed especially where blm protests are  

they're up 10 in all those places but basically  what i was saying was first of all you're  

talking about i never took notes on that that the  police are going to start screening phone calls  

okay the police are going to start screening phone  calls going uh we're you know we're we're about 20  

minutes away but what i brought up the point with  ben was to the people that hate the police so much  

here's the thing you know like how on passover the  jews put blood on the door and they were passed  

over that was many thousands of years ago put it  put a put up put up a thing on your door saying  

we don't want the police's help to be honest  they actually do put up the exact equivalent  

why do you think people put up black  lives matter signs on their businesses  

i think it's because they don't want  rioters to destroy their businesses  

that's a lot like lamb's blood of 2020  except there's a difference here here with  

the difference is that the victims are also the  perpetrators it is the rioters who are doing the  

the harming killing the arson the beating and  now we're politically empowering those people  

to go after the law law abiding  people who protect the society  

there is no society without following the law  there isn't a society without order my wifey and i  

last night and the night before we were watching  a fabulously good documentary from pbs about  

reconstruction after the civil war and there was  an island off the coast of georgia i think it  

was called saint simon's island but i may have  that totally wrong and uh it was governed by a  

very very very well educated black man who said  the first rule of civilization is order and  

order is what the police bring about law and  order and without that there's no free society  

and i am very very much afraid that we are working  against the very people who guard our free society  

it's it's more than it can also it's frightening  that this guy to 50 million twitter followers

said something that could be  construed as a threat on a man's life  

at worst and or if he wants  to say he was you know saying  

comparing him to chauvin one way or the other  that twitter allows this stuff up is an other ex  

it's it's it's absolutely i mean we could  say there's no words for it anymore ken  

yeah you're 100 right i mean i mean if if yeah  how many times do we have to play this game it's  

like if a conservative said that he would have  been gone look can you talk about the fact that  

that youtube censored and banned multiple ben  stein the world according to ben stein episodes

i thought it was two it was it was election or it  was one or two anyhow talk about that because you  

know more about that yes but don't talk about  why they mentioned that you you told me no  

no let's not talk about it yeah okay we can't  talk about it okay because if i say the words  

i can't talk exactly well wait if this isn't  america anymore if we cannot if we cannot have  

a discussion about politics and media this isn't  america anymore then it's it's soviet russia or  

nazi germany this isn't a business we're getting  we're a hop skip and a jump away from that ben you  

know that's really scary i'm glad that i'm glad i  spent all my money on really really good meat and  

salmon and so forth but ken you were in  the middle of a sense saying something  

do you guys ever want to just  turn off the internet for a month  

i don't know i don't use it mostly except  just to connect with old friends from school  

right okay you know and here's the thing  by the way ken i haven't watched the news  

since election night right i haven't i i go  to your site i go to breitbart i go to a few  

other sites but i have not watched i cannot  stomach watching any news channel right now  

and i cannot stomach watching i mean here's the  funny here's not the funny thing the sad thing is  

every channel now is now the news channel you  had espn which promised to report cannot report  

on on news reporting on this on on the chauvin  thing this is absolute insanity and um not really  

insanity it's i mean as you say this to me it  reminds me of a conversation i had many years  

ago with richard helms who used to be the head  of the central intelligence agency and he was a  

classmate and very close friend of my father's at  williams college the best small college in america  

and my father was kind enough to take me to lunch  with him at the metropolitan club in washington  

and i and he told me that his first job out  of college in 1935 i think or 36 was to be a  

correspondent for time magazine and they sent  him to interview hitler and i said did hitler  

appear to you to be crazy right off the bat and  mr helms said no he wasn't crazy at all and i said  

what do you mean he killed six million innocent  jewish men women and children and millions of  

others of every other kind of ethnicity and that's  not crazy and uh richard helms ambassador helms a  

very intelligent well-educated guy said no that  he was just a clever politician well i mean  

i say the same thing about the people who are  running the countries on the left now i don't  

think they're crazy i think they're just very  cunning evil politicians you're completely right  

and i just want to read the definition of  intersectionality for people now is this  

intersectionality or intersection i thought it was  intersexuality that's why i thought it was a gay  

thing i'm sorry 601 is an analytical framework  for understanding how a person how aspects of a  

person's social and political identities combined  to create different modes of discrimination and  

privilege examples of these aspects include gender  cast sex race class sexuality religion disability  

physical appearance and height so that's  what i was hiding that's what i was saying  

the more you the more you the more you have  on your plate the more your grievances uh  

you're allowed to have grievances so i i  humbly think i was right on the definition  

i i i apologize so you and i follow you guys i  want to see who's got the height privilege here  

i think we're about the same height actually a  little bit taller but i'm a lot older or with more  

well so you get the age thing that's kind of the  only uh the only protected class that you have i  

know religion he's jewish i'm a conservative yeah  no no conservatives on the other end that doesn't  

count he's sober sober sober okay well i'm only  fairly sober and i'm 511 and if you just tuned in  

you are listening to the world according to that  man benjamin jeremy stein we like want to thank  

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reading your site ken i love the stories you  post um and i want to get banned i want to  

welcome everybody back to the world according to  bad stuff but i really want to get back to this  

because we are coming to the point where cops  are not going to go into certain neighborhoods  

i just want to give this as an example ben was not  familiar with this canon a lot of people aren't  

in brooklyn new york there's a jewish ambulance  service called hatzala right and it was started  

sadly my mother might correct me on  this because a father lost his child  

and the response time by the fdny was terrible so  he wanted to set up for the community their own  

their own ambulance service so they  partially screen and they have a number that  

most if you're jewish you have the number um and  i think we're coming to that point where i'm i i  

could see a privatization and maybe i'm crazy of  the police force i'm scared i i i am scared and  

i'm scared on a personal level and on a moral  level i'm scared on the personal level because  

i want the police around to protect me if there's  any kind of danger to me or to my family or to the  

people i love uh that's one and i'm scared on a  moral level because we are character assassinating  

and sometimes in person assassinating the people  who protect our lives at the risk of their own  

every hour of every day they still come to  our neighborhood though i mean i'm sorry the

and in my neighborhood you know i live in  sausalito you know they come when we call  

them and they respond but let me let me let  me juxtapose that i live in north hollywood  

and i'm not joking i live 20 i look i used to  live a block and a half away now i live like  

four blocks from a police station it took him  20 minutes to come to my apartment one night  

20 minutes and they were down the block so  yes it all has to do with what neighborhoods  

yeah right domestic dispute or  something or what happened all right

i'll tell you a good a good story of that bane  a number of years ago when i first started doing  

wynn benson's money uh somebody followed me  home from the studio i don't know who it was  

and they uh our our garage was under construction  the door wasn't closed and the two gentlemen  

followed me into the uh garage really i i  thought there were fans and they were on  

an autograph i turned and smiled and they pulled  guns and one my wallet and my watch and so forth  

and uh so anyway so and they look they didn't  kill me thank god and they left and i called the  

police and the police were there in way under a  minute but they started looking around the kitchen  

and i said to them gentlemen thank you  really around the kitchen but these guys  

weren't in the kitchen the only place they  were was in the garage they were only in  

the garage they weren't in the kitchen at all why  why are you looking so carefully at the kitchen  

and one of them said because your tile work is  fantastically good it did instead my wife designed  

it herself and he said it's beautiful it's giving  me ideas for redecorating my place but anyway i  

love the health police i i just said i was i'm  laughing also because i'm reading in the comment  

sections everybody's having a now a race of who's  of who's the higher level of intersectionality  

in the youtube chat and it it's really funny but  here's the thing for the most part most of you are  

probably caucasian so you don't get into the uh  you are the lowest level on the intersectionality  

chart no matter how unless you decide to you know  cross sides and and get uh gender reassignment  

then you you've skyrocketed up but ken it's you  guys both live in good neighborhoods so you but  

ken there are parts of san francisco where  i'm sure police are very hesitant to go to now  

well san francisco police i mean when's the  last time we've heard san francisco police  

being accused of anything by a criminal they  are the most gentle kindest and gentlest uh  

police force i think in the planet which is of  course why parts of it are over run by criminals  

um um they are very very polite they've been  they were taught about who to call a miss and  

a miz and a miz and her and him and all that years  and years ago and uh and they soft soap everything  

um so yeah but there's just a lot of places  i wouldn't go but look i'm usually you know  

i believe in the second amendment on a  personal level so so i've always believed  

even on the best of days that with the with  the true exception of beverly hills i mean  

if if cops are five minutes ten minutes  away that kind of doesn't do you any good  

in an emergency situation the cops cops  were less than one minute away yeah and  

in that instance what did it do you except  get you some nice kudos on your tile  

that could be taken in so many different ways um  nice style man and um but uh you know we uh you  

you're completely right but i want to get back  to this point of police you know go to stadiums  

whether it's undercover you know not undercover  but you know after you know off-duty policemen  

work events policemen are constantly working  obviously hollywood events the police unions  

really need to stick together and say you know  what we're no longer going to protect you guys  

if you guys want to have your own security forces  great but the the lapd the nypd out of stadiums  

out of professional sports you've lost the  privilege of protection my humble opinion  

it's a good opinion and but i'd like to  just go back to something basic which is  

that's something we have just ignored i think  so far we have a new president joseph biden  

from delaware a state that i'm very very familiar  with why isn't he weighing in on this on his whole  

issue and the subject ferrara of issues  and saying i back the police of course  

i'm opposed to criminals i backed the police  they actually said the same the exact opposite  

yesterday yeah where he came out and said we  back the victim that's exactly what he said  

and and i'm trying to react to being ironic in  this case that the victim was in the process of  

stabbing somebody i won't have another black is  it stabbing another black woman what are they  

supposed she had a night and i love how everybody  now likes to play monday morning quarterback and  

says shoot with a taser yes because taser shooting  i we everybody goes you know the taser range  

it's it's uh it's it's a very common practice i  mean i can't imagine from 30 feet away a taser  

being the most as somebody's going for  a knife and going to stab somebody ben  

that being the most accurate of weapons but  i could be wrong i i said well i i question  

you're not wrong of course you're right about  this but i i again i go to the question why  

are we attacking the police so much i mean we  know we've we've discussed this many many times  

that of the total number of killings of  african-american freedom fighters in this  

country the overwhelming majority overwhelming  are by other african-american freedom fighters  

why is it that the police are the ones in the  news all the time for doing the killing and the  

shooting why why why aren't the main perpetrators  in the news what what bring up a great point  

then it's something i was thinking about  yesterday ben as lebron james is so angry and  

floyd's lawyer ben crump who looks like he always  whatever his something his name rhymes with  

um we're so angry yet they have they every  monday after chicago's shooting sprees  

there's no anger there's absolutely no anger  lebron james is no problem we've spoken  

about this with the nba doing business with  china and with the concentration camps none  

but when it comes to a case of of what is it  eight last year unarmed black men being shot  

by the police that's his that's his that's  his where he draws his anger not a block  

it's like it's like fat people getting mad  at frito-lay that's very miserable it is

i always ask how much of it is evil versus  how much of it is stupid when somebody's  

saying something that's patently untrue and and  and that's an overstatement but what i mean is  

how much of it is people who have an agenda  and know that that's the best way to get it  

you know look jesse jackson made a an entire  i know he's your friend ben made an entire i  

haven't seen him in years and years and years and  made an entire career out of being a race baiter  

um and and certainly you know look when the  black lives matter gal is now on her fourth house  

i mean she can't be too too upset about  the american economy and how it treats  

black people in america uh one of them  in a very nice neighborhood in tapanga  

canyon i love to pancake candy and where  it's a pancake canyon i think she's one of  

three black people now in topanga canyon  so but that's fine whatever it's america  

uh but i i think so you have to talk about  the different groups are the politicians  

using using these shootings and floyd and all this  stuff to get ahead 100 absolutely they're doing it  

with cold and crafts determination do i think  that most of the black people who are living in  

the neighborhoods who a always had kind of a bad  relationship with cops because that's kind of an  

in many black neighborhoods it's just an unhealthy  relationship the cops are often jerks to them  

and they're often jerks to the other and  it's kind of like they're like like living  

with your ex-wife in the same neighborhood and  one has a gun i mean so it's a bad relationship  

and and that's a very very clever analogy yeah  that's a very clever truck a little too close  

to home actually but anyhow but the you know  the the the sad thing about the black community  

is they don't know how to fix their own problem  and and so they look they look around they have  

cars they they drive into beverly hills they drive  into just any white middle class neighborhood  

and there aren't bars on the windows and there  aren't drugs being sold openly on the corners  

and there aren't cops shooting people in there  and then they go back to most black neighborhoods  

and to be honest you know from from an outsider's  perspective it's kind of most black neighborhoods  

have a lot of problems i mean when's the last  time you drove on to martin luther king boulevard  

and didn't make sure your doors were locked i mean  that's i don't even know where martin luther king  

there's one in every city and in every city  i guarantee every major city there's one  

in in los angeles you don't go down there  it's by the airport um uh where is it well  

it's it's in the area where you don't go let's put  it down and in every city when you get to a martin  

luther king boulevard you're like oh make sure the  doors are locked i i don't like doing it but but  

most people do if they notice where they are  and and as and and somebody been you know you've  

you've seen this come and go and you understand  economics and you understand how how how  

how groups change and and and perpetuate through  through cultures and it is very very sad that a  

kid who's born in a black neighborhood is born  into a neighborhood eight times out of ten  

that's got high crime it's got high drug abuse he  doesn't know uh odds are that he's not gonna know  

his parent poverty throughout and the easiest  thing for them to point out is race because  

then the solution is if you guys just stop being  racist we'll have a good life and the sad part  

is that that it's that's not the problems that  that's not you know if everybody in america just  

if racism disappeared tomorrow let's just say some  some some somebody came from another planet and  

and beamed the racism bone out of everybody and  every american black communities would still  

suck and black communities would still have  the same problems that they have now because  

it's not racism that it's at the root of that  it's a lot of other things that are endemic  

to the culture that's been passed on might  have been created in large part by racism and  

you know years back i mean you know you know  that we are still living with the remnants of  

slavery and and not being allowed to have  an education and a breakdown of the family  

all the way up to all sorts of things so  the perpetuation of the problems in there is  

something that no black leaders really are clearly  right i'm touching on and it's well wait a second  

the last thing that ken said was the most  important which is the black layers won't  

touch it the black layers won't touch  the fact that black kids drop out of  

school way way way way earlier at a way higher  rate than kids of any other ethnicity and that has  

a lot to do with the fact that they're poor it's a  lot of their own behavior it's heart rendering as  

my wife would say that this is so but that is  so and but i've never heard of a racial group  

which got ahead in the long run by blaming  their problems on someone else i mean that's  

another year right after the civil war there  were black communities of former slaves slaves  

very little if any education who managed to  put together working communities where are  

they what happened to them where'd they go where  did they raise a great point and if you just i i  

just want to say something people in the chat ken  wasn't stealing chris rock's joke chris rock just  

was very famous and said it out loud but everybody  you know there's a martin luther king jr boulevard  

is always in a bad neighborhood it was it  was a christmas i mean he stole that from me  

he stole that from anybody that's ever driven  down and martin luther king boulevard in any city  

in america except then you know because ben  when you're in the back seat and you've got your  

you've got your your driver up front sometimes you  don't notice what streets you're on i i actually  

uh drive myself usually in my own little car and  i love it a lot and i but i i knew respectfully  

respectfully especially to tell you i don't know  where martin luther king boulevard is and i'm sure  

i'm sure nobody else in my neighborhood here  does either but let's let's let let's just say  

is there any solution to a situation in which the  african-americans will not take responsibility  

for their own problems i i don't know if there  is now i mean why can i say there's something  

going on here that's very deep and untouchable  and can't be said it cannot be said it's is so  

i just want to give my point on this because  we've allowed the excuse to be perpetra to be  

to continue we've allowed them you know ben we're  both jewish our family my family came here most of  

them were slaughtered in the holocaust they came  here with nothing they worked their butts off  

it wasn't easy to be a jew in america for a long  long time and and they worked their asses off  

they didn't use it as an excuse the same could be  said for the koreans the same could be said for  

the italians the same could be said for the irish  everybody that came to this country got [ __ ] on  

did they get [ __ ] on in this country a little  bit longer a hundred percent but if you keep on  

allowing people to use it then we're both sober  right we both know you have to own your [ __ ]  

even as painful as as stinky as that smells the  only way to recover is by totally demonetized now  

why because i said [ __ ] four times um yeah we  demonetize anyways but um i don't know what team  

that i'm afraid we don't we don't we don't put  commercials up we we we're not soliciting uh  

people with commercials but that's i think the  biggest thing for me is that we've allowed them  

to continually you continually to use this  as an excuse well there have been people who  

have not let them use it as an excuse and i  will tell you again for the millionth time  

i had the great privilege many years ago of  working as a ghostwriter for reverend jesse  

jackson and i heard him give many speeches and i  will tell you again that i heard him say over and  

over again to young black men and women complain  about racism all you want i'll be right there  

with you complain about discrimination all you  want i'll be marching right next to you but get  

an education and you'll have a great house get it  again learn how to be an electrician or at a wire  

house learn how to plumb a house and you will have  a nice life and a happy life and a decent house  

and nice cars and you can send your children  to school but and some listen and some did not  

so ben did you write the speeches where  he would like threaten a corporation  

and then like get his kid on the board then  coined the term hymietown for new york city  

i did not write that but i am aware i'm aware  that he did that but i'm uh i'm not uh i'm not  

sure about this part of your speech writing  that wasn't part of your speech writing was  

hey ford give my kid a free dealership  or we're going to call you racist  

i wasn't involved in that i was talking mostly  about his childhood in lovely charming greenville  

south carolina where my son now lives and if  you just tuned in you are listening to the world  

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now here's the thing i i i i i i don't want  to forget to do this so i want to remember  

remember to do this now every show i want to  take a moment in history that i spent with ben  

is one of those moments ken that was a surreal  experience and i've shared this on the show before  

and i wanted to share this at the end but it's  one of the coolest stories we were on a flight to  

houston and um in front of us was like ben says to  me he's and i swear to you he says he says to me  

judah i think that guy's in a rock band and i look  in front and it's i go it's billy gibbons from z  

and billy gibbons from turns around to ben and  goes i am a huge fan of yours and i'm just sitting  

there like going this is like really surreal this  is like zz top and ben stein and he's like i love  

you on fox news i i should probably shouldn't  say that out loud um but uh he loved and and and  

then this just one of my experiences with ben  but i want to get back to this um thank you it  

was fun and we needed to have a little bit how  did you tell the guys from zz top apart though  

one of them had no idea of their names only judah  knew their names i didn't even know they had names  

one of them their orange beard is a lot longer and  and ended up years later i bumped into him and i  

see him at the local pavilions and and i tell him  the story and he goes wow you have a great memory  

i go i have a great memory who the heck would  forget who the heck would forget that airplane  

experience but i again i want to get back this  and i want to share we have ben and myself have  

a level of disdain not for for the bernie sanders  i myself is not a subjective pronoun thank you mrs  

lovin we have the same feelings ken for the adl we  have the same feelings for the bernie sanders we  

have the same feelings for for for people in our  own community that we that we just cannot stand  

so this is we're equal opportunity disdainers  of of people propagating these things ben stein  

you're like a minority i'm very equal  opportunities of democracy and i i might add  

uh with the greatest respect uh i used to be  a tremendous admirer of the adl since they  

started attacking my very here my hero tucker  carlson uh who i don't think he even knows i'm  

alive but i'm a great great fan of his uh i just  lost all respect for adl for doing that i mean  

tucker carlson was one of the great human  beings of 2021 america he says the truth  

he says it boldly says it wittily and incisively  this country cannot live without people like him  

we the fact that the adl said that about him  a real hero of american liberty and decency  

is shameful i love tucker we love tucker thank you  thank you for that one more responses i'm trying  

to go through the chat and people are thanking  sharon for something i'm trying to figure out what  

is karen she's in the chat i'm trying to i used  to have a girlfriend in high school named sharon  

um i'm sure a lot of people did it's a fairly  common uh rolling up to see what sharon did and  

i don't see anything i i don't see it either so  wait wait oh she met dusty from zz top and his mom  

at the black tie and boots ball in 2000  george w's first inauguration i was  

i was the host of that ball oh my gosh the  host of that ball it's it's not kidding  

ben stein it's one degree of ben stein and you  know people always say six degrees of kevin bacon  

you could pretty much do two degrees of ben stein  and you will uh and you will uh yes you will be  

able to win that way we intersectionality  out again he's an intersectionality now  

i've been i've been sober for 20 minutes all right  we're very we're very proud of years we're very  

we're very proud of you ken but i want to get  to but i want to get to this solution thing  

because i don't see a solution i don't see i  don't and i never thought in my wildest dreams  

the same thing with ben steinken i never thought  i would wake up in the morning and say i don't  

see a solution to this because at this moment in  time i do not see because here's the thing ben's  

not bent we're you know the silent majority sadly  isn't loud enough we're the ben's he's not silent  

but he's part of that majority like i am and like  you are the problem is the the the minor minority  

is wrecking this country and it's it's so  disturbing ken i'm not convinced that there is a  

solution i think that i mean look how many years  have honduras and costa rica lived next close  

to each other and one of those countries sucks  weenie and one of those countries is pretty great  

and they're both hispanic it's not like there's  racism at play but i mean what's the how did  

honduras over over all of humanity end up being a  [ __ ] and costa rica another small country same  

region same same genetic population is pretty  nice i mean i mean if you if somebody said  

you got to go live in costa rica the rest of your  life you'd be like yeah okay i can i could i can  

do that maybe that maybe maybe our grandkids  grandkids are still going to be having these  

same conversations i mean i mean you want it to  succeed you want all elements of american society  

and of course the world to to succeed and have  good lives and live and live in good societies and  

and have rich fulfilling lives where they where  they have happiness and and and and achieve things  

and and and self-respect i'm not 100 sure it's  going to happen though because but let me ask you  

let me point out something after the  civil war there were a lot of people  

white people former planters and other white  people in the south who said that black people  

could not possibly conceivably succeed in america  or govern themselves and they did they they formed  

communities and did govern themselves for quite a  while so something has happened it isn't i don't  

think it is a genetic thing i mean people say oh  there's so many data that say that the different  

races have different iqs maybe so but there's no  race in the world which when properly educated  

cannot learn a trade or a craft so why is it that  they're taught not to do it well we had a chart  

i think it was i forget whether it was in uh  whether it's in the american spectator or the  

wall street journal where it was of how much the  government pays people in this country to be idle  

it seems to me one thing we could do to start  helping this country get out of this rut is to  

stop paying people to be idle i mean we used to  have laws in this country against vagrancy which  

was intentional idleness is that too harsh maybe  it is i don't know i have a daughter-in-law i  

mean sorry a niece who's very much an expert on  things like that maybe she knows but uh i just  

think maybe maybe the government pays people too  much to be idle and to not learn and and maybe  

we're doing that maybe we're subsidizing this  kind of incompetence i i think you meant look  

i i think that any rational analysis of the great  society and of of the war on poverty would come to  

the conclusion that it had the opposite effect  you've been you've been and it's not just a it  

was not just a conservative well you wasted money  but then it actually made yesterday more people's  

lives worse one example was it made it easier  for women to be single moms right exactly right  

exactly right if i've told this this analogy here  it's not an analogy it's a story but it's it it it

before you start i just want to say something  we repeat ourselves and ben said the greatest  

thing to me one time about repeating myself i  had written you know a story in it and then he  

and i wanted to write another one and it was very  similar and he said george will's been writing  

the same thing for 75 years and it is so please  george will away i was in i was in alaska and  

i was i was at in the wilds of alaska where there  was a stream that came up uh going up uh you know  

somewhere between a stream and a river and then  it was going up into some tough areas and rocks  

and i saw a concrete sluice that had been broken  apart you know a sluice is kind of like a uh um  

gutter it's like a large gum yeah it's kind of  like a large gutter that's it's kind of like a  

it was kind of like a handicap ramp for fish and  what happened was that 50 years ago the government  

people who ran this part of alaska said so  many of the fish swimming upstream are dying  

and we want more of these salmon so we're going  to make it easier for the for the fish to get  

around the the this waterfall you know you've  seen the waterfall going there and then it  

was exactly like that crazy stuff well they built  this and it made it much easier for all those fish  

to get upstream and it almost completely decimated  the fish population there the salmon population  

because what was happening was all the fish  were making it up and and producing and that  

wasn't what was supposed to happen it  was just supposed to be the strongest  

and and most athletic fish that made it past this  thing that then created the genetics of fish that  

made them repopulate more and and let's not take  the analogy too too closely but it was it was the  

government trying to help people out or in this  case fish out and and what it turned out was that  

help weakened the entire tribe of fish trying to  get upstream and and certainly the great society  

and and and lyndon johnson's did linda johnson's  you know war on poverty did that and i think one  

of the huge huge things that nobody nobody looks  at enough was it allowed the the the nuclear  

family and black communities to be destroyed you  looked at it and you were like wow these these  

single women who's who got got knocked up and  abandoned they're living horrific lives and you  

want to help them out just like you want to help  people out with with unemployment or or so many  

things but the process of helping them out made it  rewarding enough for gals to say you know what all  

i have to do is have a baby and i can move out  of my house and i don't like my mom and do this  

and it ruined largely a generation two generations  three generations of of americans who were allowed  

to it changed their lives in in the way that it  changed those those fish lives and it's magic  

moynihan wrote a very very famous book and many  many essays on the same subject and others had  

written about it before that and if i may say so  uh milton friedman probably the greatest american  

economist except for paul samuelson uh wrote  about it i think uh right after world war ii when  

the welfare state of america was really getting  rolling uh way more than it did under fdr and uh  

it it it is true if you take away people's  incentive to work they won't work i have i'm  

sorry to say i have an extremely close relative  who he was subsidized by his family and it has  

destroyed his uh his necessity of working and has  been extremely harmful to him we love him like  

crazy but it has been harmful and i i i think this  is being done to a whole generation of americans

it's sad it's that work is incredibly  important to people i mean work is  

amazingly important to people and where i seem  to work is that the keystone is the keystone  

or maybe i should say the artstone of american  blackness i mean when black people had to work  

uh they were incredibly better than when they  they were the need to work was eliminated and uh  

i think the same is true of jews of irish of  chinese i've been a hardest-working person i know  

uh hard-working people i know are immigrants who  do not have not accustomed themselves to a welfare  

system and they are incredibly hard working they  are going to take over this country and they  

should and somebody brought up uh moynihan was  one of the last great senators ben great points  

and ken gray points that's what everybody's  sharing in the chat they're wondering about  

something else with me but um nothing to do with  my brains but have one cops coming over my one of  

my favorite responses was somebody said it was a  sexual assault and he was home alone good thanks

again that was good you asked something that  was a commenter that was that wasn't me you  

had something i'm not allowed to speak about but  that's actually hysterical um but i want to get to  

more of this so so i have a hat on right now you  know i have i have a hat here that i'm wearing as  

the american flag and fishes and we talk about  the silent majority and can you have this um media  

action network and i think it's really important  that we get into the solution because you put out  

these things and i really think if if more people  all it takes is one or two people to start wearing  

refund the police you know you know different  sorts of you know supporting our police i'm saying  

you know so much or else we're going to have to  defund you thank you mrs levin um but it's really  

important ken that that we get this campaign out  in my humble opinion that people because it starts  

with one it starts with one person in a community  standing up for the police it starts with one  

person in a community walking up to a police  officer and saying thank you for your service  

and it that could create a chain a chain reaction  because they have to know that they're not alone  

and i think police officers i think police  officers in this country right now feel alone  

they don't feel like they have support especially  because we the silent majority isn't loud enough  

everyone should go up to cops and i've done it  multiple times and just been like you know i know  

you get a bunch of crap but thank you because  i do that all the time i love it and it's good  

thing to do and i i'm great let you know  there's a wonderful a christian hymn uh let  

let dear god let there be peace on earth and let  it begin with me and i would say let let there be  

appreciation of the police and let it begin with  me i'm looking at the man in the mirror anyhow  

but yes absolutely and and because  you know and i tell him i had

he's a very funny guy i mean i'm just trying  to find my role here smart one judas is the  

master of ceremonies and i guess i get to be  the clown you're the check shacky get the jet  

so get back to it ken what solution are  you offering us because we need a solution  

gosh we have we have a we have a lot of solutions  that i think we need to we need to pursue one is  

is is we as conservatives need to look upstream  and and fight the upstream battles we can beat up  

we can beat up idiot lebron james or the the  hispanic you know the puerto rican chick who's  

i still think it's kind of cute but it's kind of  crazy and got big eyes and uh who's that who are  

you talking about aoc oh my god you think she's  nice looking wow okay yeah i do i do well you're  

in san francisco he's lucky then if he thinks if  he thinks aoc is attractive he's a blessed man  

okay good good for you ken if you find her hot  you're the luckiest guy in the world but go on  

i'll tell you like 20 years ago i had a dream a  sex dream this you cannot about hillary clinton  

i woke up and i woke up and and like this  wasn't like you know she was here and i'm like  

i have to kill myself now there's no  there's no other way out of this except  

self-immolation like one of those monks or  something but can you share that with roger ailes  

um i don't know whether i told him that or not  that's really really funny it was weird it was  

very very weird very funny um wow we need to  fight the upstream battles we need to we need to  

stop worrying about too much about what  the senate's doing today and this and  

that those are important things but but that's  transient what's important are those upstream  

battles and that that is means we need to  encourage conservatives in the education  

world and we need to start taking back some  colleges and we need to explain to parents  

that they can they can divert with their money  away from the craziest colleges to temper some of  

that we need to take back the media and we need  to not just we hate you we hate you we need to  

get into it we need to own it that's that's both  traditional media and conservatives need to get  

it they need to go to work for cnn and be quiet  they're conservative and just write little things  

that they can do it also means us reinventing  and and building up a parallel uh uh uh  

universe in in the internet and we need to have  a conservative silicon valley now there's there's  

some rich smart aggressive people out there who  are trying this there's the parlors of the world  

there's the gab and there's the there  there's there's there's you know  

i don't call telegram conservative and some  others i mean there that's the way that we  

win this fight in the long term is by going  upstream and and and fighting on those grounds  

secondarily is is is we just need to get  into the fight it's like liberals have been  

you know it's like i hate their tactics  i hate thee well you got to shut up but  

you know i mean i mean they have done  great at at silencing and and making  

conservatives fearful let me give you one exam one  example a loot i think it was a police lieutenant  

donated 20 and and we'll do this is insane next  week donating 25 to carl uh kyle rittenhouse's  

campaign that is great that's really good that's  right and then he got fired and he got fired fired  

because he said we're with you cops are with you  you know this young man who shot three people  

every one of them who was attacking him one  was a was a child molester the other one was  

a multiple convicted felon all three of and one  was had a gun in his hand as he was attacking him  

and this kid pulled it off pretty well  he's still sitting in jail right now  

you know he's out of jail he knows he's on the  jail he got bail though really yeah you sure yes  

okay ricky from silver spoons and some and the my  pillow guy were huge donors and getting him out of  

jail i did not know that yeah you know what i  must have been on vacation that week and i'm  

gonna look it up anyhow this cop two days ago  got fired because of that so so we have well we  

have you know billionaire multi-millionaires uh  i'm saying it's it's you know threatening cops  

uh so so we need to we need to create some pain  for the companies and and the politicians and the  

celebrities who do these things and and and you  know whether it's whether it's encouraging cops  

to not go to any any game and work as a as a as  a private contractor or just lebron james games  

or whatever whether it's getting some of them and  and making them be beholden to their own standards  

we've got a lot on our plate and we need  to to stop thinking and start acting more  

you see i think it also starts more ground  level up okay i believe in certain places  

you walk around with a shirt that says i  love america i'm proud to be an american  

walk through west hollywood wearing those things  walk through any neighborhood that you think is  

a leftist neighborhood and start so that way  the silent majority isn't terrified into into  

their silence if if one two i think there could  be a domino effect that's the the quickest thing  

for me that i see ben stein you know you are  you're a walking poster child for conservatism  

in in west hollywood now we need more people to  do that type of thing it's it's it's it's on the  

ground well i i'm jude and i often go shopping  my wife doesn't shop and uh but i do the shopping  

for our family and uh i my wife's a saint but  she doesn't shop and uh i uh when i check out  

where i leave the meat counter the salmon counter  the druggest counter bless you you have a salmon  

counter in beverly hills yes we do oh my god  i have to move god i say god bless you and god  

bless america and you know what very few say god  bless america back but some do and i've noticed  

i think if i keep saying it year after year  more say and i think that's a good way to begin  

is whenever you say goodbye to somebody say  goodbye and god bless you and god bless america

you know so yeah i i agree with you completely i  think ken we need this i mean i don't understand  

how any police officer right now i truly don't  could go brave people they're brave men and women  

no they're extremely brave but i don't know how  any of them could if you have to think in that job  

you could be dead right we're we're setting  these people up right for death right you  

know if you're walking up to a traffic stop  scared to death that if you do something wrong  

not the driver of the car with a warrant does  something wrong and you flinch that policeman's  

dead and nobody talks about the the the uh all  the policemen that have been killed in the line  

of duty and probably a lot of them flinched in  some ways they didn't do what they they could  

have done and i i don't believe police officers we  need to we need to do whatever we can to support  

these people from the fdmy to the lapd to any s  to local municipalities when we need to like stay  

we need to become in front of those stations with  shirts saying we support the police so ken i would  

love if you could do something like that because  i will gladly stand outside a police station  

your police station's only a block and a half from  our house so we'll we go over there as soon as i  

get back from south carolina you set up something  in beverly hills where ben stein uh celebrates  

police and we will be at that police station in  beverly hills it's it's a we know it's rough in  

that area and we're taking a lot of risks by being  there but can i would love to do that because  

that's a great idea because they need to start  every once in a while uh i have one they need to  

start hearing how much we support them ken you  could even come down here called the ben stein  

whatever and we will be there raw rying and  i can tell you in this area of beverly hills  

quite a few people will be at that  police station doing the same thing  

they'll be speaking farsi but that's okay six  of one doesn't really matter it doesn't matter

where with them i'm still kind of blown away so  how big is this salmon counter can you explain

with all due respect as you know very well judah  meyer friedman there is on the right a the meats  

counter and then just the left is the fish counter  yeah okay wow but but all together it's surf and  

terp it's everything all the whole effort a  grocery shop would be called surf and turf  

so ben lives ben goes to a restaurant or to a  supermarket where there's a salmon counter yet  

is still nervous for his safety not at all not  at all well i think you said you were nervous  

for your safety no i didn't oh at all maybe  you have brought that up though that you're  

scared when you hear the police sirens behind  you that's going to be for something you said  

i'm scared when i see the police sirens behind me  since the election that's going to be should be  

for something politically indirect that i've said  yes i am and listen like i need so i'm not worried  

about that i don't drink or take drugs so not i'm  not worried about that but i i am worried that  

that somebody's going to arrest me for saying  something politically incorrect and that is a very  

bad state to be in hey listen we're we're doing  this thing we're we're doing our thing here and  

i'm not scared of losing it yeah we look there are  tons of platforms that we could do the show from  

but it is a frightening thought that everything  you say can and will be used against you  

in the court of public opinion it is we have lost  our our ability for grace for dignity for respect  

for forgiveness people stay say and do stupid  things all the time i remember when it used to  

be okay that you forgave those people and we are  we are living in such unforgiving times ben can  

i've never witnessed anything like this it's  that first mistake people just are ready to  

pounce on you well but let's then let then let's  let's then let's let forgive them start with us  

the man who can forgive and it should be  women too is walking in the footsteps of  

god and i think that's a good way for us to  begin tonight and tomorrow do we agree with  

you joe biden for stealing the election  and we're not allowed to talk about that

sorry that didn't happen youtube he's ken  mccord he's sorry eric eric eric in the  

uh in the comments gave me the idea sorry i i  have uh i have no idea what he's talking about  

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we are soldiers in the army we have to fight  although we have to die yes we have to fight on  

children till the day that we die well my mother  was a soldier she had her hand on the gospel plow  

and then one day she got weary she couldn't  fight anymore she said i'll just stand here  

and fight on anyhow did you just make that up  are you kidding that's an incredibly famous song  

now i i've never heard of it uh because i loved  it don't get me wrong i'm not south and so you did  

not learn what were then called what were then  called negro spirituals i'm sure that would be  

called something else now hate crime hate crime  well that's what they were called and there was  

not no disrespect was intended and by the way i  would like to add i have been a contributor to  

the uncf for at least 40 years at least and i will  i challenge you to guess what the ann stands for  

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