I have rarely asked for help. I am not asking for myself but for my beloved country—because if not now, when? There is only one person that can save the Republican Party and the country. It’s time for President Trump to please get back in the game. And there is no better time than Tuesday, July 13. So please sign this important petition. Your humble servant, Ben Stein https://mediaactionnetwork.com/
no now youtube so it doesn't i mean it doesn't really matter
am i reading a book and loving it um what was i going to say no you no oh he's always a good
way to start um let me make sure we're on we are on i like the i think people get a good i
want to know how you knew that was climbing allegro i told him that was carmen electra
i asked him who the all the people were on your wall because i've always looked at those photos
and wondered who they were and it's carmen electra next to stonewall jackson on that note
i want to welcome everyone to the world according to ben stein we are joined once again and he was
he was sorely missed from american greatness ben the rock boy chuck welcome back and we missed
you very much sir thank you very much it's great to be back and of course from 931 wibc
radio you totally messed up you did great ben thank you and of course from the media
action network the all-star himself ken lecourt welcome back as always excellent
and right off the bat i want to welcome everybody that's in the chat room saying hello
i thank you mrs levin for starting it off right away getting me insecure about the way i say
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five star review we have some really exciting news tonight but of course i didn't welcome the
most important man he's writer provocateur actor saint sinner love her husband and of course father
dr benjamin jeremy stein america's teacher and grandfather and grandfather america's teacher
benjamin jeremy stein we salute you sir i bless you so right off the bat i want to get into this
um thing um ken is that we are working on with kevlar court for media action network but i want
to bring up really quickly why this has been bothering me so much the all-star game i know
it seems trivial to some um but for me i'll be honest some of my sponders childhood memories
and i've shared this with ben stein um you know very similar to his father some of my favorite
memories are listening to baseball games on the radio and you know hearing that great call by joe
buck when uh kirk gibson hit that home run going i don't believe what i just saw and having that
image in my head and there's something pure about baseball it's america's pastime it um it's just
it's a sport that celebrates everybody now thank god and there's something extremely special about
it and it it really is everybody's had a catch with their hopefully with their dad or their child
and there's just something very special maybe about baseball it's unlike other sports and um and
so i was very hurt by this and i'm very hurt that baseball has taken on has been um ken and ben um
involved with this with this motor and dlm stuff and stein and it's heartbreaking yeah
as my wife would say heart rendering uh it is really really sad it didn't need to happen
if people wanted to express their unhappiness with george's
voting voting laws which are not at all restricted by the way the wall street journal has done a
very thorough analysis of them compared with other states they're not at all restrictive
um people could have chosen another way to do it but to attack people's means of relaxation
attack people's means of entertainment uh my father god rest his soul the greatest of great
fathers used to call baseball the great american anodyne uh anodyne is a painkiller by which he
meant whatever was going on in your daily life watch a great baseball game even a mediocre
baseball game because we were in washington d.c we had the senators they weren't that great
um but it takes your mind off everything now suddenly everything is politicized everything
is bolsterized everything is race-wise and it's a it's a terribly terribly sad situation
camel accord so let's uh talk about quickly what we're doing because uh with media action network
the world according to ben stein we have started a petition can please tell people what it is
it's all started with a guy named judah this guy over here yes the consigliere of ben stein came up
with a gosh darn good idea and he called me up and he said so i'm not into sports it's all a bunch of
whatever guys run around after white ball but i'm so tired of every time i turn around my pizza has
to be politicized or or wait hey there's not a black person in the cockpit at united airlines
so he said a sentence and he was like there's one man who could who could fix this situation and and
cause some pain to major league baseball for being completely stupid on this and it was obvious what
what he was saying at that point and and so judah had the idea of look let's see if we can convince
donald trump convince give him the idea encourage he's going to do what he what he wants to do
to hold a rally in georgia head-to-head with the all-star game he would both help georgians out who
are losing millions of dollars worth of this game because they passed some innocuous legislation
that the press had decided was was uh you know it was it was their racism du jour it was silly
the the the you know the concept of calling oh you can't you know you can't give hamburgers to
people in line is is now you know the modern jim crow is ridiculous but the concept that
trump could go there he could hold one of those rallies he could charge money for it
and either buy himself another jet or give it to the uh republican whatever's in in georgia
he would put a pound of fla you know it's like fox would probably pick that up
and so you've got whoever whoever streams the uh the uh the all-star game versus versus fox and
oan and and uh and newsmax streaming that it would take a bite out of them it would allow
50 000 americans to to say enough is enough at this and that would be the perfect time to do that
so we popped a petition up um um uh we're up to like 4500 people on on that we will use all of
our uh influences i know what i don't have any good direct connections in with that but if we
can get him to to do that it would be a wonderful strike against this cancel culture [ __ ] whatever
we call it these days and speaking of people with connections that brings us to first ben boyczyk
well can really quickly could you could you tell people where exactly to find the
petition yeah do we have that link up so you can go to mediaactionnetwork.com and
you can and you scroll down a little bit after you see a box it's slower slower
media you're right thank you you know i i used to live in new york so i'm kind of fast talking
fast thinking i do this for a living ken say it's love i'll say it reverse media action
network dot com scroll down a little bit slowly and you'll see the very first uh the very first
action item down there is to to sign up for this we got a couple other good ideas to get attention
and i think we should have a little bit of a brainstorming session on what could we do to
encourage trump to to do something like this because i cause it i don't think it would be
great it is the perfect move and and and and it was a great idea thank you um i wouldn't have
thought of it well i think let's just let's note that judy is not bragging and that it had to be
brought up by somebody else and that judah did not uh brag at all and it is quite a brilliant idea
thank you and i i honestly this is you know i wouldn't have thought of it without ben stein and
i wouldn't have thought about it without you camel court who got me into thinking about punching back
against this stuff but ben boyce how are you going to help us out that's the question tonight
well you know american greatness does have a rather sizable readership and so uh certainly
we're going to want to promote the uh i want to promote the petition and uh oh you know
it used to be the case that that people in trump's circle read our stuff and maybe it'll
it'll get to them that way we'll find out but what are we gonna do about indiana
ah robert kendall oh uh judah will be on the mock and rob show tomorrow time to be determined he's
on the west coast so he's going to wake up at like 5 a.m and tape an interview with me we're going to
play back tomorrow i think this is an awesome idea judah called me a couple days ago and told
me about it i said i think it's wonderful sign me up for it i'll help promote it any way i can so
tomorrow at some point between nine and noon judah will be on the mock and rob show on 93.1 wibc
bam that's how my dad says it to me now when i walk in the door hey there's rob kendall
bam the future talk radio and uh i think this is great i think is i think it's wonderful ben
and and ben stein and getting back to you it's like we'd need to figure out how this
can is brought up of ways of counter programming and there is no better way to for i think the
counter programming than doing something like this we're forcing it upon it well we're talking about
america's number one media personality certainly in terms of politics nobody else is even close
why should not he use that in a furtherance of his ideas many of which are turning out
if not all of us are turning out to be incredibly important to me it's amazing that every
day's newspaper doesn't carry a story saying trump was right about the southern border
and we're all sorry i i was on an airplane flight across the country i spent
the entire large part of the time reading in new york times cover to cover and it's all mocking
contemptuous uh so-called analysis of everything having to do with trump but of
course if you read the story if you provide a little tiny bit of news wormed in there
among the analysis and commentary you see he was right the southern border is falling apart
america is being besieged by immigrants and god bless them they they have terrible lives at home
they do need to have help but some kind of word or something wrong or seems to me to be a good idea
that's all trump wanted not a bad idea at all uh by the way if if you do read the new york
times cover to cover uh make sure you have a way to jump out of the plane at 40 000.
are such relentless cruel disgusting contempt for the united states of america and such worshipful
praise of any kind of non-white violence against asians against whites against anyone it is a
scandalous it has become just a propaganda organ for the most militant elements of the
african-american freedom fighter community and uh very very sad rarely takes the part of the victims
of this violence almost always takes the part of the perpetrators and ben you are the only
one i can guarantee almost in this panel that has a subscription in the new york times i'm not sure
about ken um but i i would imagine what i steal it ben boyce i'm shocked i didn't even know that
you could get the the new yorker i don't i i don't get it in print anymore but i i do we do get it
in print and like you can go to archive.is i'm sorry you go to a site called archive.is it's one
of these archivers so you get a url from the new york times and you don't want to spend your right
hard-earned money on the new york times and you go to that i can show you how to do it later it says
oh look for an archive version you pop it in there and you can read it for free but i but i will tell
you that i i you can't do that also get up and down and go to the men's room on the airplane
which we old people have to do a great deal um but if i may say so if you were to read that newspaper
in detail as i did yesterday and i i have family members who read in extreme detail way way way
beyond what i read it and and they uh i don't i don't know how they can leave their house each day
without being terrified because the stories are uh depicted in america which basically the ku klux
klan is running everything except that there are a few brave uh afro-american african-american or uh
other uh other groups who are fighting them but they those groups do have the help of the fbi and
all the politicians i have a better question for you ben why why do you
why do you subject yourself to it knowing what you're going to read why why not just
hit yourself with a hammer because i want to be well informed enough to comment on this show
a great answer and i know a lot of you aren't sports fans but this all-star game and this the
blm stuff is sort of meant a metaphor for what's happening in happening to a lot of the things
on this panel that we all love separately so ken you might not be a sports fan ben and for
boycott i'm pretty sure you're not a sports fan rob you probably love high school basketball um
and and and college basketball i know with the profiling going on there
and um but it but i want to know from each of you what what what viewing habits have
changed because or listening habits because ben boychuk is a is a huge music fan and it's
hard to listen to music when ben boyce if you're the people you grow up listening to
have asinine points of view and scream them sometimes well that's true except uh i tend not
to pay attention to that um and and i also tend not to and my my late father always used to ask um
you know the course of writing columns and things like that how how can you do your job without uh
you know paying attention to what's on the tv news i said because i i read the stuff that ends up on
the tv news i so i don't really i don't watch you know sorry ken i i haven't watched fox news in
probably yeah 10 years maybe more uh i don't watch one america news or or newsmax i tend to avoid
televised media uh try to read as much as i can uh like ben stein and um you know pick up information
where i can where i can get it and and try to be informed that way but um uh so in a sense
my my media consumption habits haven't changed all that much although um i tend to read less
uh institutional conservative media i don't really read national review anymore for example
i think it's a great magazine but it was it was i think well you're right it was it did
it it missed about a certain way and of course when mr buckley was editing it it was extremely
beautifully edited and beautifully written but let's let's let's let's take this i was at the
airport in washington yesterday uh washington national airport it's very diverse a good 50
of the people in the hall and boarding the airplane were a non-white a good 50
many of the attendants on the plane were non-white and yet you would think if you read the new
york times that uh the ku klux as i said the ku klux klan was running everything in america and
these people somehow were fugitives they weren't fugitives there was many of them were sitting in
first class and i keep thinking there's a reality in america which is that racial dignity is being
applied to everyone in a giant way that is totally totally missed by the
left-wing media and uh the reality is that america is enjoying a golden wonderful age of me
of racial equality and racial opportunity and somehow that's just totally missed and i say
people say to me all the time why are you out and about so much and and i love being out and about
but uh i like to see what's real the princess and the prince discuss what's real and what is not
it doesn't matter outside the gates of eden beautifully said on that note if you just
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i really spectre.org my main outlet i mean they're my super power except for youtube
may now they're my super pals i love them beyond words and of course rob kendall from 93 run bam
i am i have a question my dad used to ban me a lot but it wasn't quite a bam yeah i have a question
for this group because i think it's important and jude i'm going to ask you this tomorrow because
it's one thing i've found is when people people have to have buy-in when they know what they're
working towards so like just saying we're gonna try to get trump to do this people go okay that's
nice i've got trump to do an interview before i know how hard it is to get trump to do something
do we have an idea of what sort of number of signatures you're going to need to draw
his attention like because i had something to offer him which was media time in a primary that
he needed to win in an area he needed to win but like of course he was going to do it right because
he was told this guy is influential how many signatures do you think we need on this thing
before trump goes okay that's interesting it's hard to answer the number i mean maybe over ten
thousand but you need enough so that way over ten thousand yeah but you need to you need enough that
really the answer is you need enough to have a couple publications in the conservo sphere to say
hey this is kind of a cute thing and one of the 16 guys that he has working for him
printed out and walk in said hey look this is happening there i'm not sure if it's
that's a hard hard number to answer how uh um but but you know it needs to look it's patently such a
good idea that i think that you know every person i've mentioned to is like oh my gosh that's great
and and i i think the second guy who walks into his uh his tanning salon in boca raton
or wherever he is and says mr trump this is getting a little steam it'll be like
huh i mean obviously look it's a real deal for them to do something like that but he's
probably still has the mechanism in place probably still has the campaign guys there
who threw you know 30 of these huge things before he's got a couple months to do it
and it's such a win-win all around for him unless he's got an overall i want to stay out of the
limelight he's obviously been intentionally quiet for a while um um i suspect he's just sharpening
his his swords and he's going to come back i'm sorry i think he's probably pretty damn tired
but i think he's the kind of person who would wake up from the thrill of combat i mean he is
the ultimate rocky it's the thrill of the combat as what or wherever sylvester stallone who went
to the same junior high school as i did and it's a uh i think at the same time yes he and i are
the same age i think he might be a year older they used to box they used to call it goldie onto you
wait really yeah damn what are they all three of you were there put some water in that junior high
han ben stein and sylvester stallone and also also uh ideologically not exactly a close kin but
a very close friend carl bernstein so there you are wait wait let's get back wait wait a second
real quick real quick dude real quick and then i promise let you get back to it are you telling me
ben that like at the same time ben stein sylvester stallone goldie hawn and carl bernstein were all
at the same junior high school uh carl uh i don't think goldie's at the same junior high she went to
one actually that my sister went to and was a cheerleader at called eastern junior high but
uh we uh we but carl uh and uh sly and ireland and junior high together at montgomery hills
junior high the worst place in the world i want to get to ben boychik though and you're
questioning because a lot of american greatness's stuff was coinciding with trump's rise if that's
a good way of saying goodbye truck right so yeah um american greatness started in 2016 um right
around the time he had uh secured his nomination but um you know we've had uh our readership grow
enormously in the past four years and um and still going great and so you know publications
like ours that are very tuned to um you know the uh sort of conservative populism that
that uh president trump helped foster um you know i i think this would be something that that
our readers would be interested in and and and i you know we've had several pieces this week too
just on um you know this this is really kind of an almost suicidal move by major league baseball
uh because among other things it it invites scrutiny from congress
you know they they're they're tax exempt they're they're and they're exempt from uh antitrust laws
i think the whole idea of scrutinizing people on the basis of racial inclusion or racial exclusion
is just scratching the service i would love to know how many members of the democrat
caucus in what in the congress are members of the chevy chase club and that's a very
fancy club on connecticut avenue in washington d.c at least when i was growing up and no jews
jews jude rouse uh i think they might have one or two jews now not many uh there's a
club right near us in the desert uh called el dorado a very powerful corporate chieftains
no jews uh nobody didn't let me in go figure what they wouldn't let me in it had nothing to
do with i couldn't afford it this was and one of the members was a old friend of my wife's father
and uh so she proposed uh alex and me for a membership and alex is my beloved bride and uh
they and uh we were seconded by like 10 people and then we were vetoed blackballed by some people
uh from l.a and uh when and they called to tell me and i said that man i asked well
i mean you guys solicited me to join i didn't i didn't ask to join you solicited me to join
and they said well we we don't take people in entertainment and i said you mean you would not
have taken ronald reagan and i was just hilarious just hilarious that that is a very funny story but
ken actually you ran a story today which a lot of people i didn't see it covered anywhere else but
the court news that could be wrong then boyce where where basically am major league baseball
was threatened by the media that if they didn't um uh capitulate they would go after the players
it's a nice baseball field you got there wouldn't want something to happen to it
yeah exactly yeah but look here's the thing though i the reason why this is successful
is because only one side is playing this game and it's only the little weenies on twitter
and once we start poking them back in the eye a couple times and once they start seeing a
conservative backlash to some of this then at least that enters into their calculus i mean right
now if you're sitting up at the at the you know the the penthouse of wherever the baseball people
sit and and talk about baseball things you say oh we're getting a lot of pushback from this and
that okay well let's just screw it let's let's do all this and that and you know it's probably trump
and he was horrible and all of this stuff but if we have a handful or more than a handful of
successful counterpunches back to the throat and makes their eyes water a little bit then at least
the next guys when they're in that meeting and and you know aoc is like i'm never going to go to
a baseball game again they say okay let's look at this in context and the reality is over the last
10 years one side has been aggressively fighting and the other side has been like
let me put down my earl grey tea and let's discuss this and that just hasn't worked for us
and and maybe we're losing our culture because of it okay man i'm sorry i cut you off go ahead
no you're go ahead i know go ahead go ahead and tell you i was gonna say we we have this very
interesting thing that judy and i and i believe mr mr candeland have discussed which is the
people who are pressuring major league baseball to move the game uh executives of corporations
public corporations owned by the public not owned by the management owned by the public
we don't know if the public was consulted at all they're the owners the management are the trustees
for the owners the owners are the fiduciary beneficiaries they should have been consulted
they should have been had a vote none of that happened the management acted like they owned the
company and they don't this is the basis for a lot of class action litigation and i should i think
there should be class action litigation about this what will the effects on the management be i don't
know it doesn't matter even if even if the company doesn't lose one penny by moving and insisting on
moving still the management has badly mistreated the stockholders that's not supposed to happen
yeah okay can i follow up on that real fast because the masters is going on right now and they
tried to pressure the masters which is in georgia and the master said that's nice you're completely
ignored in the order in which it was received and that i watched 12 hours of that golf tournament
today my radio show was terrible because i was paying attention to that instead of the show and
people were there every person uh it was limited capacity but as always you couldn't get a ticket
the ratings are going to be huge for tv i don't know why these sports organizations listen to
these these people who push this narrative because as we're seeing once again record numbers of
people are going to watch golf because people are tired of politics and golf stays out of politics
i could almost i could almost guarantee you one thing jerry jones the owner of the dallas cowboys
whether you like i hate the cowboys whether you love him or hate him built the his own
stadium with his own money i can guarantee you as he's watching this crap going on in football
he's sitting there thinking what ben's thinking i want to sue but i'm involved
so i can't really sue myself right now but jerry jones must be sitting there thinking i've invested
billions of dollars and i've had my stadium closed for the last year and all this stuff and and and
i don't think it's from the owners i think i i i don't know where it's coming from other than
rob manfred however you pronounce his name the commissioner is a total jackass i don't know if
he can i don't know if he converted you know that together with the owners to be honest with you
i'd like to know what clubs he belongs to and i'd like to know what neighborhood he lives in and uh
i think that would be a good start on him i mean if you want to start playing the game let's uh
have whatever detective agency or uh investigators uh are available and there are plenty uh look into
what what clubs these guys are members of i know years and years ago when wifey and i used to have
uh lunch or dinner rather at the el dorado in down in indian wells in the desert with this very very
nice woman who remember and i would look at the list of members and their gigantic big wheels in
corporate america many of them were politicians and this club was so restricted it was insane
and uh why isn't anyone looking at that why why is anyone looking at the wj stuff i mean
these are gaping errors in consistency of judgment about exclusivity and diversity gaping
and on that note if you just tuned in you are listening to the world according to that man
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mediaactionnetwork.com sign the petition show your support ben
boichik from american greatness is here tonight welcome back we miss you ben
um uh you you're also hopefully gonna be and i will be on rob's show tomorrow ninety three one
is that wednesday is that the future of the driver's license yes i was waiting for
you guys to uh and and this is the next question i want to ask you guys because
we were all obviously some of you are in sports fans ken when you were young you run a sports fan
okay so ben boychik and uh everybody got him like with the worst crowd of non-sports fans but when
you were young embarrassing when you were 11 or 10 or 11 or 12 years old remember you'd be in school
rob and it didn't matter you could debate bands with your friends right you debate what if you
like elton john or billy joel more you debate if you do you were a yankee fan or a met fan
you didn't think about you didn't have to be inundated or uh by by this mass fanstein culture
being preached upon nine-year-old children being indoctrinated and i mean i are nine-year-old kids
right now like you know discussing who to trade or do they go you can't trade him because he's black
i know but it reminds me a lot well let me back up a moment wifey and i almost every night watch
documentaries about uh world war ii and i have various close friends i tried to teach
throughout world war ii it is fascinating to watch about the nazi propagandizing of
young german children and what they taught them until i taught them who to hate see in america
we were indoctrinated too i mean i i my sister and i went to a
wonderful wonderful wonderful really wonderful elementary school called parkside elementary
school it's just a glorious place and we were taught to be very very proud of being americans
very proud things were great now true things were not great the school was segregated and there was
only one black person on the campus and his name was willy and he was a janitor and he was an
incredibly good janitor and a very nice man had been a soldier for the united states of america
that was outrageously that black people were not allowed in but we were taught we had the country
had problems and inconsistencies but it was still the best last best hope of mankind and it still is
let's indoctrinate a young americans on india we are the greatest we can be better we can be better
we can be better and we will be better but we do not want to be ordered around and if i may go on
just for a few more seconds are someone i worship i know that uh know that the jew doesn't is a
commentator on fox news he has been going out out all over the place against the justice department
for their prosecution persecution of the people who strolled around the capitol on january 6.
they didn't attack anybody they didn't shoot anybody their doors were open they didn't break
through barricades it knocked that down glass doors and uh they're being prosecuted as if
they were killers as if they're a group of mad killers and many of them have been imprisoned
now for months without any specific charges being leveled against them this is really a
terrifying situation in democracy not supposed to happen the constitution has just been thrown away
by the biden justice department in terms of these these men and women and i i agree by the way
it is not a good idea for these people to go walking around half naked in the capital but
they should have due process that's to me all meaning of the constitution they should have due
process where is their due process where you you you bring up a great point but ben boyce i want
to get back to that point a little bit about you know when we were growing up the arguments that we
i'm sure you were arguing with your friends over who were your favorite bands who were this who are
that you know normal conversations for children to have and i really do wonder if they're having
these dialogues today you know where it was just as simple as what was on tv last night who's your
favorite athlete do you love that singer is this going on or have you just lost our minds
yeah well you touched on you touched on something a minute ago that i thought was really salient um
there is a the culture is so highly racialized so on on on easter sunday uh my daughter wanted
to watch uh this movie called hop which was about the easter bunny came out in 2011. and um my son
who's normally pretty sensible about this sort of thing there's this whole subplot with it where the
the the worker chicks you know like baby chickens chicks lead a coup d'etat against the easter bunny
and my son was looking at this and he goes that's awfully racist against the
chicks i said what are you talking about if anything it's not racist it's speciesist
but but you know that it even it never would have occurred to me to make such
an observation but but uh the generation coming of age has been so steeped in it
um that it's almost inescapable well you know ben made the point of and and
this comes down to how does a society propagate its values from generation to generation
and and we're at a tricky point in america right now how does a society do that they do
it through the educational establishment we do it through obviously people and and your
parents and and certainly when there was a three generation household living together as we did
a hundred years ago where the grandparents lived with the parents live with the kids
that was also a propagation of values and and the va you know and entertainment is a way to
propagate values and you look at the entertainment that i grew up on you look at mayberry rfd with a
little kid would lie and then he'd get in trouble and his dad would tell him don't lie because it'll
make your life worse even though it feels better in the moment or the kids steal something or the
drunk would do and you look at the values that they are getting now through entertainment and
those are very very different they're not what ben said we are the greatest company whose
country who is fed and freed more people than any country that's ever existed on the world
instead it's abraham lincoln was a racist and everybody sucks and this and that
and our fight so needs to be in those upstream battles to help propagate what it means to be an
american the things that keep us tight in together the things that made our society
rise up higher than any society on the world in the history of humanity i mean we are at that
point we are at the apex of that and and that is being torn down to a generation who's being taught
a lot of different things and and that's what we need to fight against more than anything that's
happening in in the senate today especially i think we need to fight against the notion
that this is a racist country back up yes certainly it was there's no doubt about it samuel
johnson great great genius super genius said it's a long time ago at the time and declaration of
independence was being written roughly at that time not exactly at that time is it not amazing
said daniel johnson that the greatest criers of freedom are the drivers of slaves and that's a
very good point this country was fundamentally founded on a terrible terrible terrible sin of
racism and human slavery it was fundamentally horrible a war was fought to free these slaves
never ever in the course of human history has any master race and i put that in quotes uh
fought and lost 600 or more thousand of themselves to free the lower lower rated in terms of
political and civil rights race has never happened before why is nobody ever giving america credit
for that yes the slavery was horrifying but the fact that people died all over the country in the
blood soaked fields all over the country to free these slaves that was a miracle of human decency
and we never get any credit for it as the resident sports expert of the world according to ben stein
can i weigh in on this yes please please so we had this conversation monday before the national
championship game because on saturday night there was an incredible game between gonzaga and ucla
talking baseball yes yes it's the large baseball the big orange large basketball thank you
took place took place here in indianapolis the national game okay gonzaga is this undefeated team
ucla barely gets in the tournament it goes this is the final four it goes to overtime guy hits
this incredible bank shot to to win the the you know the the game in overtime and you know it
was arguably the greatest big game ever played in college basketball history and we started talking
about how memories have been deluded because of social media like it used to be if you watched a
basketball game 35 years ago you could tell that story for 35 years based on your memories it was
your story where you were who you were with how you felt at the time and now i don't think people
have that anymore because immediately they get on their phones and they go to social media and they
look at what other people are saying about these events so your memories almost get collided with
everybody else's memories and you lose the specialness of the moment and we're saying i
think that's true with social media now in terms of politics and everything else where your own
free thought gets so smashed into everybody else's thoughts that it's almost like the independence
and specialness of what you see and believe is diluted now and and knocked down by everybody else
that's a a brilliant psychological observation and i my hat's off to you thank you very much
i'm gonna play that tomorrow on the air ben that you said that's brilliant i will at what time you
show on i'll go on and tell you nine a.m to noon but i want to go back to what ben boyce was saying
ben i got when your son said this i know you were in shock but um i i i don't think you ever in your
wildest dreams so your son would be dissecting i mean and he's what 18 17. 18 will be 19 shortly
and he's a great and he's a great and wonderful kid and and i i did it frighten you that that's
what he was thinking about that movie no it wasn't frightening it was it was a little bit irritating
you know because he's like he's generally he's pretty sensible about this sort of stuff
and and i just kind of thought cut this [ __ ] man you know i don't wh what is this nonsense you're
peddling in my presence um you know it's first of all it's a silly animated film for crying
out loud um not everything you have to impose a a you know a template upon and uh you know
get over it you just raise a great point though ben benson i want to get this to everybody isn't
there like to all these people that are imposing this on us aren't there just people around them or
do they have no self-awareness or is there nobody walking up to them going cut the [ __ ] just stop
annoying us you are you are you are you are borsch ben stein i mean is there nobody that is saying
that to these people or do they just live in one equity there's no there one echo general i had a
very very close friend very very very close friend from college wonderful guy super smart guy
now a law professor at a fine school uh and uh i was he and i were discussing uh various things
about the race and crime and trump and uh i said how many people on your in your circle of friends
in the law school faculty would agree with anything i'm saying or and you and you are
saying to me in strict confidence and he said none absolutely none another friend who had been
very close friends with my wife and mine at yale uh is now also a law teacher and i
we were writing a long time ago about trump and he he said he said i want you to know
before i write a single other word on the computer that i disagree with everything you stand for
and i thought well what does that mean i mean we both what what can i mean everything i stand for
you disagree with the need that i i have to take a whole bunch of laxatives every night i mean
you disagree with the fact that that i like uh i just agree like uh scrambled eggs and what
what are you talking about but the point is he had to be sure that in case berea was listening
uh through the uh kgb or the nkvd of those days that he would not get uh sent off to libyan i mean
that is how strict a discipline is on the left against us uh troublemakers
and and judah by the way the other day made a point we should be echoed every single day that
now we who love america praise america who think america is the greatest and and have
our lives have been benefited unbelievably by being americans we are the outsiders
we are the ones who are being sneered at and spat upon by the beautiful people but
it also means it also means we're the counter culture so we're going to get the hippie chicks
well you're young that's not part of my life hopefully that's how i feel wifey you give her
one of those headbands come on you can hopefully the hippie check has changed a little bit um
and if you just tuned in you are listening to the world according to that man benjamin jeremy stein
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tomorrow tomorrow jude is going to be on the show i i might be the most selfish like
thank you um but um because i i think this is just important thing to do for me
these things are just doing what we're doing is just really important it doesn't matter
if our names are out there or whatever i just think it's very important and people that say
this isn't about sports sports has always been the great equalizer sports has been you know if you
look at the olympics if you look at all sports it was always the one thing nation shared in common
and at the end of wars you we were able to be we knew if you look at who was still at odds with ben
stein certain countries they were countries that never really entered the the stream of sporting of
sports whether it's i don't believe iran has entered the olympics but with russia i think
they did i think actually they're very very good wrestlers um well grapplers definitely um but um
russians as as bad as it ever got in this and when carter boycotted the rush to the russian games
when the when the when when the cold war was over we had been in the playing field with them they
were an enemy but we knew them we they were still human to us and i i really believe that sports has
always been the great sort of human equalizer and ben stein we've lost that we've lost that
well we're losing i don't know we've lost it completely
but we're rapidly losing it well let's face this horrible sad fact the media
and their bosses in the democrat party other colleagues are about dividing america
i am a great uh i was considering my age and wait a great student of the civil war
clearly at the beginning of the civil war there are a lot of people in newspapers
and their dad that's pretty much yeah the german media who were clearly stirring up
division they wanted those they wanted the union to be dissolved they wanted for there to be a war
uh i think we have people in the media today who want america to be divided against each other
against themselves and i think they want a civil war as i as i read the new york times yesterday
uh in a state of extreme sorrow and panic um which i i guess is really my standard state i
these guys really want something to be the equivalent of the firing on fort sumter
they really want there to be a precipitating event which will divide this nation along racial lines
so starkly and so violently that there will be war and i think by the way in a way it's already
started i think last summer's riots disturbances killings arson where the people who did it largely
got away with it i think in a way that was firing the first shot in the civil war and and
and the fact that those people did all these violent things and were basically praised for
it by a large part of the media uh and while these poor guys who are wandering around the capitol not
doing a thing except sucking their thumbs they're being pun threatened with life imprisonment
there's some kind of uh war going on there yeah but to ben's point real fast if i can we let
last tuesday when i was on with you guys we laid out the story about the malik muhammad
guy here in indianapolis who led that angry that is an incredible story to the governor's mansion
threatening to storm the governor's mansion on the on the news saying i went there expecting to die
and within days he's meeting with the governor in a vip meeting a republican governor in a vip
meeting with him in the first lady and then three months later he's in portland and has now been
arrested for attempting to kill police officers back in september and october of last year so it's
who do we even turn to to trust when the republicans are giving vip treatment to lunatics
well that is that why did he do that yeah why because he's weak and he's wonk
right he's weak and he's woken and he was that's a great that's a great bumper sticker he's weak
and woke and robbed if you don't make that as a bumper that's except he's weak and woke
but i want to ask i want to get the ken and ben boyce quickly because ken one of
the things i always loved on fox news i always loved it in the past i should say was i mean
everybody loves to talk about the beauty of roger ailes and it was just beautiful but what he did
really well was he allowed the other side to be heard too so every segment you'd almost watch
there would be a democrat and a republican i don't care what network other network you're
watching you don't hear that except for fox news and i always loved listening to hannity
and combs because i i didn't agree with alan combs but he was a human being and he he
he made it okay to disagree and be on the other side and still hug afterwards
we always viewed ourselves as being 15 degrees to the right of center we we
never viewed ourselves when i was there for 20 years of of being like the conservative whatever
we we never were like there were never in in any kind of editorial meeting that i was at and i was
within i was with roger ailes twice a day in editorial meetings and senior staff and it was
never elect this guy or do something it was about give them their fair point of view and and and and
yeah i mean eventually it was like you know look there was no accident that hannity was better
looking than combs you know roger once said he said there's one show in america in the history of
america where the conservative was better looking than the liberal have you ever seen that before
and he was right so i mean look we had our thumb on the scale a little bit because we needed to be
about 15 degrees to the right of center but that's where the audience was i mean the audience isn't
all out on the far right or far left they're kind of in the middle it's like a bell curve in america
and the media was on the left side of the bell curve and we just needed to be a little bit on the
right side of that just by just again probably and he he used to he used to use the analogy of of the
of the apollo missions coming back to earth you come in at too too steep of a of a of
an angle you burn up on reentry you come up too shallow you skip off the atmosphere and
and you go forever we knew that if we went too far to the right it would create problems with
the advertisers and just push us too far over we were just a hair to the to the right and we
discovered a great niche in america which was half of the country and it worked okay and very
did it brilliantly okay more than okay and now i think newsmax is trying to hit them they don't
they're still a startup really really in many ways somebody i hope will be hitting them but i mean
you know it was it's really interesting from 1932 33 to 1953 we had all democrat white houses and
people thought that was the way it was going to be forever and then along came dwight eisenhower and
we had a republican eight years and had there not been wild cheating in 1960 it would have had more
republicans but uh so so things can change we need to find a wonderful person to be a candidate where
there are i think the great the data is pretty overwhelming at this point that americans are very
worried about the border they're very very worried about tremendous tremendous deficit spending
uh let's find a leader who will get who'll get to mobilize and get the country moving they're
very very worried about racialization of america this country is supposed to be about treating
people equally not about giving preference to people yes absolutely if people are poor
and broke and intelligent and don't have any money in their family to go to school of course
i believe the government and the taxpayers should help them without question but to have
an ongoing system where one race is favored over another that at least to me is not america
so in in oakland we recently had the mayor stand up and say i'm now promoting this program that
is going to give a quasi uh 500 a month or or some types of thing to poor people in oakland
as long as they are black brown yellow any other color except white
um well there are no poor whites in oakland let's face it yeah they actually are there's a
lot i i know that was a joke i mean whites are kind of they're like 35 percent of that city i
mean it's a minority of that city there's a lot of working-class or sub-working-class people
and so part of me now then now they've kind of like they changed their website you guys
maybe talked about this last week because i wasn't around last week because my son was visiting
and and and i was thinking i'm gonna let i want to ask you guys if this was a smart thing because
it's a quasi-racist move i was thinking so i've i've got a i've got a car that's used but it's
a pretty nice mercedes that's been sitting out in my driveway for a long time and i haven't haven't
written i haven't driven it in a while i was thinking of saying i'm going to give this as
a lottery to anybody in oakland as long as they're poor and as long as they're white because the only
the only poor group who's excluded by this private public partnership kind of a racist thing but
obviously trying to make a point would that have been a smart thing or would that have been elitist
and racist i think it's a great thing to do and i that the racialization of this country terrifies
me i have been a fighter for equal rights african americans all of my life and i still
am i work with black people almost every day i hope i treat them as well as they treat me
that's where i think we want to be i don't think we want to be on a side of promoting one race
above another that is not going to get us anywhere and it's not going to get them anywhere i i i
i'm not as ferris bueller might have said i'm not black i'm never going to be black but i think
it's incredibly insulting to tell black people they cannot get ahead unless they are favored
and just so you know i have a little year in oakland um and i have about a thousand
i i will get a thousand lottery tickets um ben boyce you guys seem to be very fair and
balanced i don't always agree with everything that's said on american greatness but you take
different points of views and it's so bizarre that it's conservative sites that often do this
way more not even way more a hundred thousand times more than any liberal site out there
well i think we're fair i don't think we're very balanced um well i don't think we're very
balanced i think we and i i do think that uh if i mean one thing we have tried to do um
to say limited success is we have tried to kind of fill the role that national review fulfilled
back in the 50s and 60s where you know you had a lot of really interesting debates on the right
um you know hashing out questions that were relevant at the time and and the questions
that are most relevant right now uh you know into sort of a post whether it's whether it's a
post-trump era or a or a a trump interregnum i don't know what you want to call it but
with with um with a resurgence of of kind of nationalism and populism
and how that fits within um you know american conservatism generally i mean we have
arguments internally about whether we should even call ourselves conservative because
um what you know the conservative movement as as we see it today uh has really
not conserved very much and uh has really kind of failed uh to it
to advance any of the sorts of you know the agendas that that they claim to find important i
mean there's a reason that my friend michael anton in like in 2016 wrote the flight 93 election and
what he was really talking about i mean the point that a lot of people miss from that piece is that
if conservatives in the in the context of trump's election and and and the you know the angst about
about electing that guy and he made the very simple point if conservatives believe everything
that they've been saying for the past 30 or 40 years about uh the urgency of the culture war
then what choice do you have um because to go the other direction hillary clinton would be
to assure complete defeat and um so that we've been trying to we've been trying to
be a place where we can hash out arguments along those lines but um well that's a very
ben you raised a boycott that's an exceptionally extraordinary point that came on too late with
the never trumpers with people that were that the the they they they got together at this time you
know in some ways way too late they should have been there that ben shapiro wasn't a full trump
supporter it drives me up a [ __ ] excuse my language wall you have this observant jew that
trump did everything for israel everything that alone should have been ben shapiro's
signaling to support this guy this guy did more for middle east peace than any president has done
the addiction it's and i knew you're going to say that jimmy carter oh come on
even jimmy handshake come on i think even jimmy carter came out from his habitat of humanity
and said that the major league baseball the all-star game was a terrible idea
but we are running out of time and i really just want to push this one more time i want to thank
everybody that's been listening in chat i want to thank everybody for their contributions um
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people take their phones and and and and get and get them to to sign this petition this isn't just
about a baseball game you know i was just thinking one of my favorite movies is feel of dreams and
it's about it's not really about baseball it's about a father and son having a catch and and it's
incredible and and it's it and that to me is what this they've taken up from us they've taken the
father and son having a catch and i'm convinced that if we could get this thing going in georgia
if you build it to quote james earl jones if you build it ray they will come people will
come and i'm convinced 400 000 strong trump supporters will go to washington civilly
and be there and because that's what they are and i want to thank everybody ben boyce help
people or they could find you oh uh you can find us at american greatness www.am
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we somebody else has it and uh bastards maybe we could do a gofundme or something
okay can tell people where they could find you uh media action network media action network
mediaactionnetwork.com thank you very much all right i suggest everybody go there his stuff is
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wibc bam conservative judah will be on tomorrow tomorrow i will talk to you in nine hours judah
and of course last but not least ben you are truly a teacher you are truly um
america's professor you have taught generations of people
through all the work you've done and and and i mean that when i came up with this idea this is
18 years of me talking to you um and i i don't say that well i don't say that lightly so the
idea comes to my head it's coming through your head and um you could find bennettspectator.org
but also i'm done parlor at ben stein ben sing us out tonight we shall overcome
we shall overcome we shall overcome
someday oh deep in my heart i do believe
we shall overcome some days and we are the rebels we are the fighters for freedom and
we ask what is a conservative a conservative it's a conservative to somebody who wants to preserve
the extremely basic principle that human beings have rights under the constitution and they share
they're sacred and i thought you were going to say it's a brilliantly said ben and i thought
you were going to sing take me out to the ball game but that's for another time that's actually
when we when when this thing gets to trump we sing take me out to the ballgame and we stand and sing
the national anthem together and i want to thank everybody again for listening um we will see you
saturday night have a great night everybody thank you everybody again good night gentlemen thank you
we have missed you very very much very very much 100 thanks ben i appreciate it
very much we hope to see you a lot more god bless you sir thanks good night everybody