Race in America! Reparations? Where do you get your news now? What sites do you read? What networks do you trust with the news? Where do you find entertainment in an increasingly woke-left world? Maybe we need new, “new media” as we find ourselves marginalized and alienated for what passes for mass media in 2021.
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jeremy stein we are all on location tonight locations unknown locations untold it's like
a twilight zone episode and there he is from young voices of america welcome back as always you gotta
you gotta unmute yourself nate hodgman um how are you tonight sir and i gotta tell you something
very interesting gary before i get to everybody is that my mother and ben could understand this a
little bit when you grow up in a you know i don't know if ben can understand this but my geography
was countries that hated jews and um also i was i was very taught about german or jewish names and
hochman we were discussing until last show we didn't know if um we didn't know we were
debating until you said um you're anyways there you are nate hochman from young
jew which is uh you know it's an odd uh confluence of identities but uh yes you're a jew that has
lit with liberal parents you're a conservative that moved that lived and moved to now the most
republican part of oregon and also let's thank everybody that's in the chat room that's also
welcome from the simplelifenow.com gary collins the bet one of the best podcasters in america
served this country for over 20 years stone cold a fox and a great rush fan and shirt great russian
russian another shirt and you see here's a good thing somebody brought up the name wolf
and if it ends with an e it's usually not jewish because it's wolf a
but of course this show would not be complete without the man the myth the legend
provocateur scientist hedonism doctor doctor biochemist and of course america's humble servant
america's teacher benjamin jeremy stein we salute you mr stein and of course let's welcome everybody
let's welcome everybody to this sunday night show if you could hear my voice a little in and out um
but one of the things i wanted to get to right away was um i don't want to get to the awards
or that stuff because it it almost reminds me of like if somebody wins an award it's like the tree
in the forest and it falls does anybody actually hear it oh thank you very very good very very good
very good very good but ben stein i want to get to you about something because i was honored i was on
a phone i want to get to all of you and get your opinions you could hear my voice a little in and
out but i want to get all your opinions because i was on a on a phone call with a friend of mine and
you and i been lately also been very down on how change could happen and we've become very soft and
i look at how i look at how a country then can get unified again and as i'm looking at the foreign
policy blunders and future blunders of this administration i can't help with thinking they're
creating another path for another call it isis call it whatever you want but their foreign policy
is is going to set us back and i'm scared about our foreign policy right now but i also think that
could that could bring us together maybe well i don't see why i could bring us together but
the reason america was together the most it's ever been during the second world war
because the communists and the media in america were all united with fighting for the soviet union
against the nazis we've never been that united again because the communists and the media in
america have never in that ordered to play by the rules with america again that's one two
two bigger word two uh the idea that america is now begging and pleading with the iranians
to let them uh play with the iranians and let the iranians have nuclear weapons on a scale
that would have been undreamt of even eight or nine years ago is uh it's horrifying beyond which
there's no reason to believe the iranians won't use nuclear weapons they they're not
afraid to die they want to die they like to die so that's i'm very very scared about that situation
i'm very very scared about the fact that i know and we all know that president biden is going to
lower the defense budget we know that it's just the way the democrats are and it's a very very
serious mistake but the democrats tend to do it over and over and over again
so uh yes i am very worried about how you think it's going to pull america together again i'm
dying to find out well i said but i don't acknowledge him as president
and that's first of all but um that's for a whole other thing um the reason i bring that up
is because after you look and i'll go to after 9 11 happened the country was unified until gw
managed to pull the hat-trick of patrick's and totally scrambled his own party in every party and
not unify everybody but gary who served i don't see how the actions they're taking abroad
aren't going to bring i i i'm not hoping for this and i'm not wishing on this forms of terrorism
because we already see the taliban going nuts you know with bombings today i don't see how it
doesn't cross shores that's just my humble opinion gary you being the expert on foreign policy
we have a foreign policy i didn't even know we had a border at this point so that's very
good very good that's very very good it's very good very good and plus and plus black lives
are the only lives that matter so it doesn't matter and everything else is moon um and give
everyone knives because it appears that teenagers knife fighting is very common and you should not
interfere with that because that's just racism it's kids being i grew up just kids being a kid
you know who grabbed someone in the face when they were you know 13 years old yeah well very good i
grew up in a small rough town and i've seen quite a few fights and maybe been in a couple during
my time i've never seen a fight with a knife and so i i guess i just grew up in a different place
but yeah uh no our foreign policy exactly you know we will see a resurgence of isis
um and it will i hope not but the odds are they will cross the border they probably already have
yeah to be honest russian border in the u.s of course they have i mean that's that's i mean
recently they're already here the cells have been here forever yeah thousands of thousands of people
come here coffee don't know who the heck they are you don't think isis is smart enough to figure out
how it sends them people along calling themselves jose and zombie air of course of course there
are these guys are not dumb and they're they're vicious cruel sadistic evil but they're not dumb i
love how you had those names popping off your head but i want to get to and i want to get back to
this but i was on the phone with my friend who who is part of the asylum majority none of us are part
of the silent majority because we're allowed and none of us is bart and none is a singular pronoun
you do this all the time thank you mrs levin and mate and nate i will go to you not being part of
the silent majority i i'm very scared that what's coming at the border and what's and what we're
our foreign policy what what damage it'll do and my hope is if anything happens that can unite us
i hope so too uh i'm perhaps maybe a little bit more black than you are judah about uh the
the prospect of american unity i think um our partisan divisions represent fundamental and
irreconcilable disagreements about not just what the role of politics are or what america means but
literally what it means to be human right what it means to be a man and a woman these are not
things that we can overcome uh just you know if we have sort of a an issue that we can all
unify behind coronavirus should have been that um but it couldn't be because you know half of
the country thought it was okay to sort of live in lockdowns in perpetuity so um you know the
the last time the country was really unified was after 9 11 where you know 90 95 of america
on board with um the just with one another i think for the first time in decades if
9 11 happened today i don't think that we'd have that same kind of unity um my dear young
young young young friend that unity did not last that long it lasted for a while but not that long
a long knife out for mr bush too yeah it lasted um two seconds and ben i go to you but you know
you you told me about a conversation you had with a loved one so nate i know you don't see this as
being unified but i was in shock and wrong over something somebody a loved one said to ben or
told the story of something that happened there if you care to repeat it i was very very very
intelligent woman very close to me uh in a very big eastern city and she was talking to some of
her friends who are also uh well to do uh older women very very intelligent very well educated
and they were talking about how great it was that the covered vaccine had gotten out so quickly
and it was free it's completely free and uh uh my club one said well you know who you have to thank
for that and the other two women in the party said well biden of course and uh my loved one said uh
no trump and uh she said that the other two uh women at the table were felt completely silent
but good enough could not bring themselves to acknowledge that operation operation warp
speed was a miracle i mean it was it was an act of genius like it was it wasn't still of course we're
never going to have a national reckoning with just how much of an incredible feat it was because of
the way that our our partisan media ecosystem works but that's precisely why i just don't think
we could be unified about something even as as significant as like an existential foreign policy
threat like iran getting news is because of the way that our media works right you know if there's
the border crisis is a perfect example half of the country will be reading the new york times
in the washington post and watching cnn we'll be being told something completely different from
the the reality of the situation you see that happening on the border where uh you know the
new york times doesn't want to call it a border crisis and they're you know suddenly have lost
interest in covering the kids in cages now that uh the good guys are in charge it's just
i i i'd like to now go back to your data guy i wonder what percent of america does read the new
york times and what is the circulation not very it until trump had it not been for trump they
would have been out of business okay so there's 300 there are roughly 240 million americans
and what two and a half three million at most at most reason new york times
uh so uh how much of america is in fact and this is this this was going to be just so you
know this was going to be the second topic of tonight of where you get your news sources from
and which i'm very curious about but i want to get back to this thing a little bit because
trump planned on pulling out the troops too but there's a difference between trump negotiating
gary pulling out troops inviting negotiating and pulling out troops because trump pulling out
troops and then you screw around with him can lead to a moan fighting will lead to absolute
capitulation gary yeah well hold on i i just got a pop-up for isis lives matter so i want
to blend in with the rest of half america and get my shirt but um no i totally agree the problem is
and you guys know i'm i'm a middle ground guy right i don't belong to either party i don't
really yes yes you're switzerland we know i know not really i'm not switzerland i'm not a pacifist
which one i i fight the battles that need to be fought but with with that i mean the problem
is the left always likes to let everyone know what they're going to do when you're
dealing with military strategies you know and moving troops around you never tip your hand
never you never say we're pulling out you never say any of that if you're going to pull out
you shut your mouth and you pull the troops out because you put everyone in danger you know and
i just it pisses me off that they dictate these terms and even china did you see that
thing i saw this briefly that china was was basically telling us how racist we are and
that we need to correct our own house of racism before we start pointing the fingers at china
and all of our diplomats sat there like a bunch of [ __ ] and took it and i couldn't believe
it we're getting terms dictated on human rights by china and we're saying yes you know you know
we agree with them it's not we're saying nothing i mean yeah we totally agree with them
our ambassador to the u.n i'm sure you guys saw the clip of our ambassador to the
saying that we couldn't join the un human rights council which has been shared by saudi arabia
and north korea and libya and libya right and a variety of other human rights abusers until we
deal with the white supremacy that's written into our founding documents which by the way
is not written into our forming documents and by the way just so everybody knows nate is extremely
insightful nate is extremely brilliant like you're saying in your chat we absolutely love him i wish
the show the last show we did with him didn't get banned by youtube but it was because it was
because of me but i want to thank you i want to welcome everybody to the world according to ben
stein i want to thank everybody in the podcast room i mean in the podcast from the youtube
chat sorry my voice is a little off um i love your comments please keep downloading the podcast means
the world to us um thank you for coming into the sunday night special we're all across the country
it's actually very exciting loving it doing this and um i want to get back i miss you ben ben's out
of town and i got to tell people when ben's out of town we don't know if even if we don't see each
other every day part of me is missing hey and i mean that it's like i feel like but um even though
i know i could always go to fort crescent part of me is always missing and um on that note welcome
back to the world according to ben stein and we're discussing something tonight that i think is
extremely important because we've taken ben stein as maiden and gary i want you guys to discuss this
we've taken the systemic racism on a national level and we've raised it to uh to to to a world
level at this point with what you're saying about the u.n and that's frightening well are
you i don't know are you talking to me no i don't care are you talking to me you're not coming here
the people who run this country want to humiliate us want to make us feel less than uh want to
diminish us and think that by doing that they make themselves seem more important some very funny guy
named mr sears is making a series of videos about victimization about how you make yourself big by
pretending to be the victim and so we now have people all over this country who are incredibly
privileged people pretending to be the victims and pretending to be the victims of all things
the most ridiculous thing in the world the totally fake charge of current systemic racism but the
people who are running this country right now since january 20th are people who do not like
america and want to see america laid low it's very sad i'm not sure there's ever been a situation
like this in world history except perhaps at the beginning of world war ii when the nazis
invaded france and a great many of the top french officials referred the nazis to the third to the
third republic uh democracy people in france so that other than that i'm not sure i've ever ever
seen a situation quite like one right now well the complete ignorance too and the systemic racism and
and you know i get pretty offended as being called white privilege obviously i grew up poor poorer
than lebron james who had him and his mom people forget had brand new humvees when he was 16.
shut up lebron james europe god i want to punch that guy straight in the face he's such an
[ __ ] but i kid you not that guy is an arrogant pompous loser because that's but he's an example
the people he supports and the party he supports were the ones who voted in jim jim crow laws and
not only that they supported slavery we had a war over it and his side was the one who wanted
to continue slavery these people need to pull their head out of their ass open a textbook open
a real history book and pay attention you're on the wrong side these people are hypocrites
they're calling systemic racism when they were the racist who caused all these rules and laws against
blacks am i losing my mind no you're not you're not and i i'll go to nate on this and you're not
and i had the same conversation with my friend on the phone and my friend my my good acquaintance
because ben's my only friend and um and and i said to him and and he can't understand
you can't get into the psyche of the left it's nearly impossible to have rational with the
irrational it's an impossibility so you're having a critical thought gary it there's no critical
thinking with their name it's it's just insane when you wake up every day you say this is how i'm
going to think today how do you discuss that well it's it's it's not i think even that they lack
critical thinking because there's i think there are plenty of people on the left who are you know
intelligent and sort of have uh you know basic intellectual capacities it's that they're not
they're profoundly invested in not listening to reason they're profoundly invested in not
actually listening to your argument because for them it's not about you know rational discourse
in the sort of marketplace about power and this is i mean and you can see like we have collectively
decided as a culture and as a society now that certain words shut down discussion and certain
words wield an enormous amount of power and when you deploy words like racist or white
supremacists or you know any number of other words um that has an enormous amount of power because
everyone goes oh well you know if it's racist you know then we we just shouldn't take it seriously
or you know that person needs to be excised from polite society and uh you know increasingly that
we're seeing this in a variety of other different mediums like big tech and the universities and uh
even in our politics um we're seeing the overton window of what's being allowed to say constrict
you know to a smaller and smaller uh um a range of what is allowed to be said
and that's because the left isn't actually interested in having a debate where you give your
uh you know side of the argument they give their side of the argument we sort of reason through it
together and we decide on what the best outcome is it's about power and i think this is you know
this the last point i there is there are a lot of conservatives and republicans who are still
really naive about what is going on in america and what time it is in the united states today
because they still think that we can just if our ideas are better than theirs and you know we make
better arguments than they do well we'll win in the war of ideas and people will come around no
this is this that's not how this works anymore right when they have the media when they have the
technology companies in silicon valley you know you can make the best arguments in the world with
the most beautifully reasoned logical arguments it doesn't matter they don't care and most americans
increasingly don't have actually access to hear you know your side of the argument so you we have
to think more creatively than just having good arguments and having good ideas you know like
mitt romney standing up and giving a graduate seminar in macro economics
you know it might be interesting but that's not actually how this works anymore and and we have
to actually start thinking that way because a lot of conservatives don't think that way still
religiously and as seminar in macroeconomics and i would never even consider having my dog strapped
to the top of my car i wouldn't even consider a minute let alone for many hundreds of miles
look you guys are still being way too kind to the left in this country
they are basically after control they're not into the constitution they're not interested
in free speech the whole business of them and the african-american freedom fighters
was always just a ploy by them to get at the moderate uh free speech people in america
uh george wallace uh i obviously a deeply flawed person in many regards many many of us strong
thurman center eastern men flood people in many many regards many many many regards
they did allow for free speech the present crop of leaders on the left just don't allow for free
speech they just are bolstering let's not kid ourselves they are bolsheviks they don't believe
in free speech they believe in control and and this goes back to really really young people i
have a very very close friend an incredibly incredibly close friend she's like 10 feet
tall and really really beautiful and she she has a daughter it was and i forget what grade but some
very young grades fourth sixth grade something like that third grade fourth grade feels good even
at that age they're being brainwashed about what they're allowed to say what's in i would have to
say second third fourth grade being brainwashed at that age and i'll tell you something else
which will stagger you i had dinner tonight with uh some uh family members and uh including their
unbelievably beautiful daughter who's uh eight or nine and who did not know and lives in affluent
neighborhood did not know what country south carolina ocean not not just where it was on the
map what country south america was that's right south carolina this shows kids are not being
taught to think at all even to read a map they're being taught to raise their hands and say see heil
that's it seagull environment seek help diversity sea isle women's uh are getting mistreated siege
heil about anything the left says or or civics has been displaced by multiculturalism right so while
she couldn't place uh south carolina on the map i bet she could practically speak inca right because
we don't teach our children
who's a checkout girl at the pavilion supermarket and malibu she's really nice
sorry go ahead gary what say you about this
i don't know uh since i grew up with two black parents that um obviously because me and kamala
harris are actually related if you didn't notice i heard uh a guy on fox news i don't know why i
turned that on but there's not hard i can't watch any news there's nothing to watch but he called
kamala harris the first black vice president or colored i don't even know what they and i just
went ah she's not black stuff i just hang out all along i've been saying that yes we we know you've
been saying a lot of stuff all along ben you've been saying stuff for 60 years you got us beat
let's just admit it we're just late you know we're coming to the party a little late we gotta talk
well and that's the problem with the sociopathic mind sociopaths never think they're wrong
and also they think they can change the narrative to fit whatever they think and that's what we're
seeing you're seeing a lot of sociopaths i worked in the government i've been around they're on the
right and left they're all washington dc is jam-packed with them but for some reason the
left has the really crazy nuts have found their way into the left and i don't know what we do
about this anymore because aoc is about as cr [ __ ] crazy as you can possibly get i kid you not
i like it i like it i like it i like it i kid you not and she has the biggest social media
following the youth in in gen z and a lot of millennials think she is intelligent well
informed and a person to lead this country and we are in deep [ __ ] if aoc is done
you know it's so funny it it it's it's so funny you say
that and and because i want to go to this point where you're saying
you know with this whole cancel culture and a friend of mine was talking about
some douchebag actor named pat noswell and he's one of those little
he's he's just an ass and he's one of those people he bullies people
online he does all those things and these these are cowards that aren't confronted
i'm amazed that i am not calling for this and i am not encouraging this how that scene shutters does
it all the time it's totally fine how has chuck todd never fell off his feet that's my question
how has nobody one time walked up to chuck todd and said or chuck todd and i don't
understand it really baffles me sometimes because these they're bullies and the only way
sometimes trump trump handled bullies pretty well but sometimes bullies ben need to be bullied back
i've never even heard of chuck todd who is he he's the guy from are you being serious you're
joking i'm very serious you're the host he's the host he took over for chris matthews on msnbc
he's the least bad of all of them i mean yeah stepping up sort of any of this brian
you know jim acosta i mean how is brian seltzer never been self-served i mean i just don't know
he might be the single worst ryan stelter might be my least favorite it's the bolshevist clique they
and until the top bolshevik he used to be a walter cronkite but he's not there anymore until
the top bolshevik uh calls him out and arrests them and sends them to the libyanka then they
stick to stick together and they have more power than everybody else but until then nobody's going
to call them out and who's going to call them out as i said in america people don't even know what
my sister dissolved and my sister's incredibly smart my sister just told me that she'd rather
50 of american high school seniors did not know wait well it was not my sister my dear
friend bob did not know where the united states of america was on a map did not know where the united
st nothing can be impossible in the way of the ruination of the nation so
you know what you would be amazing ben is you going into schools with like 10 basic questions
you're going to adults on the left what is the continental congress
you know you're asking all these like just you know like what year was the war of 1812
because i would i would imagine 80 percent of those same people would fail that question yes yes
and if you just tuned in you are listening to the world according to ben stein i want to thank
everybody in the youtube chat i really truly i love you guys um i love the conversations we have
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his stuff on parlor um they're really great but i also really want to thank jeffrey jeffress
who makes when ben's on location possible he does an exceptional job thank you jeff
he's an exceptional filipino food cook too and i'm going to share some of his uh links
so people could order the filipino food he's an exceptional young man and of course bob noah over
there who's also a great cat and on that note welcome back i know he's an amazing guy welcome
back to the world according to ben stein and we're talking about tonight we're talking this
is a very this is the craziest thing conversation we're having we're having a conversation about
common sense when there is no sense and and and how we're looking at a future of american students
of america this is even students these are 30 40 year old people band who have no idea
of history who have zero idea of what jim crow was they hear jim crow i i bet you i i i don't
bet but i i would venture to say if you asked most people ben they wouldn't know they wouldn't know
something having to do with the republican party or they think he was a baseball player that got
banned they would have it with jim crow they would have no idea or if you move up a level it's
that they have been taught this really twisted sort of perverse version of american history
where all you need to know about us is our darkest moments and our darkest moments define
us and all the good things that happened were lies that were basically you know concocted to conceal
the insidious power structures of bigotry and depression that lurks beneath them right the
declaration of independence was a lie you know uh written by white property owning men to to conceal
you know to help instantiate their own power uh you know lincoln you know it doesn't matter that
he freed the slaves because he was mean to native americans right like you know
every every single amazing exceptional part of american history is sort of debunked
and shown to actually be a lie or you know uh um perverse and and there's a sort of
endless obsession with with the worst moments of american history and it's the sort of like
the 1619 project narrative which i've talked about with you guys before which is historically
inaccurate right you know saying that america was the american revolution was fought to preserve
slavery was refuted by historians from across the political spectrum but it doesn't matter the new
york times doesn't have to you know issue a retraction because it's about power it's
not about truth it's about they say it because it's it advances you know the ideological cause
and that like you have the sort of base problem which is kids aren't living learning civics and
they don't know about their own history but that makes it easier that makes it easier
that what bennett just said is extremely the most important they don't know how to answer
something there's no fighting or some incredibly uneducated period i mean we have there's a there's
a movie that came out a number of years ago what was it called idiotopia or something like that
about an america where everyone was just incredibly stupid and it's happened it's already
happened it's real it's not just americans who are uh at trailer park parties and are smoking dope
or smoking methamphetamine it's people on the in the news who are high-powered people in the news
who have no idea what's going on in real life have no idea of the history of america i have
no idea of the sacrifices that men and women in america made to keep america free example example
big wifey and i have been watching for quite a while now a very very long documentary about
the war in vietnam very very long very long variance thing called that was mom
the heroism the courage that the man men and women who fought that war put into it
it's just incredible and we won many many battles considering we're being held back by the wrestling
in washington we won many many battles due to pure heroism of the american fighting man or woman
and their families and yet the left endlessly told us we lost them were killed and creamed because
we were morally bad that is such a wicked wicked lie and yet that's what we're taught
you know i mean the lies that have been spewed the revision is history that that you know
you could go back ben no matter how many years gary and me and look for flaws that's all they do
is they look for flaws they look for what's wrong they make they don't look they don't look at you
know and we've brought this up in the past ben when you were younger you you guys didn't care
or know about emissions you didn't know about throwing food on you know junk on the side of
the highway or seat belts at a certain point but you grow i don't look back at you guys and say
oh you guys ready it's seat belts just weren't invented and and you you it's so bad the way
they view our past our present and what will be our future it's frightening what they're doing
i have a very close family member first i love like mad hearts blood many years ago decades ago
said i don't know how much longer i can continue to live in this racist america
this a woman who lives a life abruptly enough of a multi-millionaire and she is a multi-millionaire
and a life of extraordinary unbelievable privilege no interaction with african americans whatsoever
of any kind that i'm aware of and yet she knew somehow this is a racist country how did you know
it from the bolshevist media hey you know gary i want to get to something we we really didn't
get to and it's really important because this knife fight that happens with the taser um it's
it's it's it's it's um it's it's a frightening proposition you being in former law enforcement
and we were discussing this a little bit last week and a cop shows up for i want you to tell people
let's say you're 30 feet away how accurate is a taser
not very and not only that but a taser is not 100 effective by any stretch of the imagination
and with the deadly force continuum which obviously our media has no clue how it works
they may want to go to the federal law enforcement training academy or somewhere and learn how the
continuum works but you don't you don't meet deadly force with wrestling techniques it that's
not how it works and the thing is that that cop saved that young girl's life plain and simple you
come to a you come to a knife or a gunfight with a knife you're going to get shot and anyone who
thinks differently you come out wielding a knife and there is a well-known video of a instructor
that we all we all in the academy we had to watch this over and over again i want to say it's i may
have the feet wrong but it's 23 feet that you can get stabbed multiple times before you can
get your gun out of your holster knives i hate to tell you people i can kill someone with a knife
very quickly very very quickly you will never get away well i'm just saying people are stupid
and and the fact that they think that he should a taser and the fact that lebron james tweeted that
out yeah that cop needs to get the best attorney known to man and sue the living [ __ ] out of
lebron james shoot sue the media because they cut the tape they cut the audio they played
with everything i'm on ben's side now just start suing all of them for liable and because this is
an injustice and i believe i'm a first amendment guy big time but if you are in the media and
you put out a known lie and you adulterate any video or audio on purpose to change the facts
you need to face a felony a felony you will go to prison if you do that and not just you your
chain of command you're all liable just i want to put these [ __ ] in the position of the cops
because cops don't get paid [ __ ] i'm telling you it's a brutal job and these stupid journalists
i want to see them go to prison and and decide you know learn what the term uh i can't say it
here but f or fight means they'll learn real quick don't pick up that bar of soap buddy and matter of
fact you better stand with your back to the wall everywhere you go because these guys have no clue
and that's where we're at i know i'm going on a little rant here but this these are the people
who think freedom is free and they have no blood and no sacrifice in this freedom they take it for
granted and they yell at the people who provide it for them that needs to change i'm on ben's side
sue the [ __ ] out of them get some laws passed let them go to prison and let them
rot in a cell and see what it's like see what it's like to be on the other side
you're completely right i just want to tell people i just want to tell people ben
has had a very long time of traveling and he didn't sleep at all last night i could
attest to that um since uh we were conversing or i got texts um and uh
it's ready to go ready ben is ready to go and uh but ben gary brings out
you are out of vote gary brings up some great points i know it's the it's the internet and
buildings gary brings up some great points ben about freedom and they they don't
the left you're getting back to it the sickness of the left it's it's it's fascinating or with
all due respect with all due respect this is not a new thing this has been going on for a long long
time the left in this country has been opposed to freedom of speech for a long long time and i might
add the pro-government side in this country have been composed of free speech for a long long time
go back to the civil war the civil war was fought over an incredibly important principle namely keep
two keeping union together and freedom for human beings it is it was an astonishingly giant event
nobody pays any attention to it now i have yet to hear any of the black spokesmen my old friend
jesse jackson uh that fine creep al sharpton anybody the worst human being in the world maxine
waters ever mentioned a word about slavery and about the freedom of the freedom that was burned
by the blood of six or seven hundred thousand white americans nobody ever talks about that why
don't we use that as a starting point and say yes we've made some mistakes on the way between there
and here but no other country's ever done this that's the thing cuba didn't do it denmark didn't
do it germany didn't do it russia didn't do it we are the only country where the ruling class
sacrificed its sons and their families to give freedom to the enslaved people nobody else has
ever done it why aren't we giving gigantic kudos by the rest of the world and by history for that
and start with that and say and now today incredibly on on us bloomberg i think it's
called bloomberg tv i see a black man who's a head of some gigantic consulting government
complaining are not enough black men who are in positions of uh ceo status in giant
american corporations wait a minute everyone knows they're given preferential treatment
that's not a secret that's not a surprise if they're not at cio level it's because they're
not qualified to be a ceo sorry ceo level there's the idea that these people are being repressed
or being black instead of being promoted and favored from being black it's a joke that's
a ridiculous joke and ben you don't have to go back that far in history well no i want
blacks in america are the most prosperous in the world that's a fact that is a 100 percent
great point and why and why i've said this a million billion trillion dimes there's a big
giant continent across the ocean called africa it's a giant continent full of natural stocks
and it is any time the american black deals he's being oppressed here and would be more
comfortable there he can go back there i don't want him to i like rock and roll
i like great sports teams i like all the things that matter black people bring them i wouldn't
be quite the same i think but but that wouldn't be quite simple but the idea that they're kept
here against their will and concentration gaps it's crazy i just go almost every day
not every day but almost every day the beverly hills hotel for lunch because it's only a couple
of blocks from my house i won't be able to afford to do my songs but for a while i'm
good the place is full of african-americans and bentleys just lamborghinis ferraris these are
the oppressed people of america what's going on here where did that idea even come from
you raise a grade point and and here's the thing you said you're you want them to go back 200 years
let's make it easier let's go back to the civil rights movement
you guys don't know this but ben wrote a brilliant book or a movie called murder
in mississippi which was also the mississippi burning which was about
the the the the two jews and the black that got the black guy that got killed in the car right um
what i think you got planned by the ku klux klan and most people don't realize men most
black people don't realize there is no civil rights movement without the jews
right they don't realize our influence and so you want to go back even 200 years we don't need
the history of how the civil rights movement has started has been distorted so not just
how many all the things you brought up within we we've distorted 60 years ago
and that's and that just shows you even in schools that kids aren't being taught this
is is is disgraceful and frightening no no you're not you're not wrong and i mean look whites in
america some of them have been incredibly horrible to black there's no doubt about that we cannot
argue about that it's true but some have been incredibly wonderful and nobody as i said before
has ever fought a war the likes of which has never been seen in the western hemisphere over getting
rights for the subjugated class only the united states of america did that that was magnificent
bloody but magnificent no one ever gives white people or the united states of america
never gary's point was brilliant too and i i i i i want you to say it again because it was really
brilliant say it one more time gary which part that that black most prosperous in america by far
not only that but you know who is responsible for the killing of the most blacks the slacks
that's another fact well why don't we work on that instead of worrying about you know white cops
going out and slaughtering blacks on the streets every single day which is complete and utter
nonsense over it statistically if you look at the the police contacts with with blacks in the u.s
the numbers are point zero zero zero zero zero i mean it's so far off the charts
and and even with those the ones that are unarmed they don't talk about the ones that
we're trying to run them over with a car you know trying to trying to bash him over the
head with a board i mean it's ridiculous do we have do we have racial tension in this country
yeah is it pretty much predominantly because the left is trying to rally everyone against uh you
know the systemic races yeah but the problem is there's racism everywhere in the world that is
a human trait and i don't say that it's right but it is a fact every ethnic group has faced
some sort of racism during their history on the on this time the planet the neanderthals for god's
sakes were knocked out by homo sapiens for god lee how far back do we have to go with this crap
i mean it's to the point where i just don't even know what to say anymore are people just
burying their heads in the sand yes they are bearing that their heads are being buried and
squished understand by black lives matter and the amazing number of fools who support them i mean
uh lenin i think it was vladimir hillar clinton said there are various kinds of people in the
west who are helpful to us and some are what we call useful idiots who are actually actually a
believe in communism think it's a good thing and they're idiots because communism is going to kill
them but they're useful idiots nate i want to get to you then i want to ask if i should
ask a very politically correct question and if you think i should but nate go ahead go ahead
well i was just going to say uh to add to gary's uh very cogent point is you know america
there there is racism everywhere it is a fundamental feature of the human condition
uh and of course there there will always be racism in america but america is the least racist
country at least the least racist racially diverse country in the history of the world and we should
be willing to stand up you know with our shoulders straight and courageously say that it is now is it
is that you will be ridiculed in the public square for just pointing that out now right but it's true
and we should be able to say the truth right this is this is the greatest country in the history of
the world for any race to live in right it's the least country in the history world that has any
type of racial diversity whatsoever and when you know progressives and leftists say well we should
be more like sweden sweden's 90 white you want a white ethno state that's what you want right like
a lot of our problems come from our diversity but i thought we're supposed to like diversity but in
sweden that's great that's great terrible terrible problems with non-white immigrants and the rapes
of those cute uh blonde swedish girls by by the immigrants has become a real crisis in sweden and
there is a there is a very uh increasingly popular far-right movement in sweden as a result real like
real nazis like they're winning they're winning seats in parliament so the idea that sweden
is this like progressive utopia you can see that it's because that's all white people right and the
second that you inject non-white people into there all of a sudden nazis pop up right so like this is
like you know that you can't you can't say i love diversity and also we should be more like sweden
because you know it's it is it is like it's hard to live in a country with lots of different people
who speak different languages from different cultures and different backgrounds and we as
americans by and large have actually figured out a way to do it and that's a miracle i mean
that is no one else has ever done no one jokes okay that's something that we don't talk about
anymore okay so guys i have a question i'm going to ask this question you don't have to answer it
on the grounds that it it could incriminate you but we do have proof and we do have data
of what reparations do of what giving land back does and how it destroyed a nation
which is the ending of apartheid now we saw the ending of apartheid in africa then
um and it literally has destroyed the the damage that it's done and i'm not saying
anybody should have been slave but what i am saying is the way that situation was handled
just giving back and never in the repercussions that have happened from it have been devastating
well that they've been devastating indeed and south africa is the only really industrial
successful politically liberal country in uh black africa or south sub-saharan africa uh of course
they had a terrible terrible repressive system called a partner there's no doubt a terrible
cruel system there's no question about that but to suddenly go up in the the keys of the kingdom to
the african uh especially african americans to the africans and say okay now that all this stuff is
yours that didn't work yes they should absolutely have gotten political power in south africa
there's no question about that there's a great majority that should have gotten political power
but they were not trained they were not educated to handle it there's been fantastic corruption uh
something something seriously wrong there and the idea that reparations are going to fix it
didn't work never worked anywhere yes the reparations paid to the jews by the nazis that did
work because the jews were already well educated and extremely self-disciplined so that didn't
work but reparations paid to people who do not have a history of education and self-discipline
has not been shown to be a success but more than just reparations has been
land given back it just just it was like you gave somebody um i i you gave somebody this
beautiful thing and you said you don't have the tools of how to work it but here you go and
and here we are right now in south africa where it's just where it's just a mess
gary collins if you feel comfortable talking about whatever's brought up
well i just will leave it at this free [ __ ] is never free so
that's that's lovely you don't have to chime in
i'll talk about anything i mean i have sort of a heterodox answer here which is like i'm not
actually doctrinally against reparations in theory people forget ronald reagan signed a
reparations bill for the japanese americans who had been interned by fdr um so it's not like i
i think it's not the worst way for a nation that has done a wrong to a particular group of people
to try to make amends for that but there are you know practically speaking there's like
a bunch of huge issues right and philosophically speaking the difference in like between the
the ronald reagan uh reparations bill for the japanese uh and like a reparations bill for the
descendants of slaves like that reparations bill that reagan signed was for the actual
people who had been put in camps by fdr not their great-great-great-great-grandchildren
um so a it's a it is uh it's it is not like america did anything bad to the people that
would get reparations here like they did uh in in that bill um and also just practically
speaking i don't know how you determine like does kamala harris get reparations right like you know
if you have one percent you know native americans actually do have this great scale and i know that
they where you if you're like one of it you get a certain stipend they actually haven't gary you
know what i'm referring to right they haven't yeah is indian reservation so yeah there you go yeah
they have it like trump but trust me they'll never figure it out ben stein final thoughts are what
are you thinking about and the japanese reparation situation was completely different because
what the government gave back to them was what had been theirs and was seized at the
beginning of world war ii and we gave that or the financial equivalent of that back to them the
president reparations bill that's being discussed is just write a blank check to all people who are
uh in any part african-american whether they had any property in the first place and that's
that's just going to be the equivalent of each of them winning a lottery and why it is that for
example the people other guys saying to my right jeff reyes is from the philippines why his family
never owned any slaves in america my family never owned any slaves in america why would we have to
pay back anything to anyone i don't understand that at all what i do understand is something does
have to be done about the blacks in america and i think that condescending to them and treating them
as if they're spoiled babies instead of expecting them to behave like the disciplined intelligent
people that they can be is a big mistake no it's a brilliant point gary and i don't even i don't even
who would want i mean i guess there are a lot of people who would want him asking like the
dumbest question in the world who would want free money but um this as you said nothing's
free and the damage of reparations is going to be far worse than what's going on right now when you
open pandora's box i mean if if you're going to if they're going to pay reparations for
two blacks then i think i what you're gonna do is every group who's ever faced any kind
of racism in this country italians the irish i'm irish you know it just it's never going to
end and you could see those groups because now what you have is precedence you're going to set
precedence then and if any group pim proved that they were harmed even though none of us
were alive then we can prove that well we should legally be able to get reparations as well
am i wrong ben you're not wrong you're not wrong in the slightest and but it just opens up a can
of worms it makes it incredibly complicated look i i i was recently blackballed from
being a member of the uh el dorado country club uh in uh in new wells california because
i'm jewish and uh it hurt my feelings a lot and uh i was missed out on some very fine meals i'd
like some reparations for that why can't i have those and it hurt your golfing handicap right
the other thing and this is like the other sort of objection that i have to it again
despite being like not sort of knee-jerk against it in theory is is the fact that it wouldn't it
would not make anything better because these are not people who will sort of pack up and go home
once they get their reparations though right like tanahisi coats and you know the the black lives
matter leaders in the black activist class like they're not going to stop doing what they're doing
they're not going to stop burning down cities because they got a reparations bill right like
it's not it is this is it's again it's about power and it's about what you can make people do
so once they make you do that they'll just try to make you do something else and it's not there's
not there's no atonement that will actually happen this is like we've talked about this
before on on on the show um you know actual african-americans are much more conservative
um uh than most demographics in america actually and certainly than like the activist class so you
know most african-americans i think would actually you know they'd feel like well you know this is
great uh you know i i feel better about my country you know now that i've gotten a formal apology
um but the activists who claim to speak for them will continue to agitate until the day they die
they're not interested in atoning by the way just you know i think you're using the wrong word and i
had a discussion with ben about this because we were fascinated about what he said they're not
conservative they're religious and there's a big difference there's there's a very different line
they have religious values they don't have as you would call it politically conservative values they
they they do in some way i mean there's there's people talk about religious conservatives right so
that's like they're more pro-life uh they're right no but that's that's even right but that's that
religious conservatives that's not conservatism but they're all they're they're also i mean we
i i don't know if i brought this up but like this is a really staggering statistic um white
liberals are further left on race than blacks are in america today white liberals are more likely to
say that if a black person can't get ahead it's because of racism that black people are which
is insane right it's an insane statistic but it's it's true it's i mean this is a pew uh so there's
there and there you can go down the list of like any other number of issues but like on the issues
they actually are pretty politically conservative but they vote for democrats nine out of ten times
because they sort of feel like that's their party and the republican party is rapist and you know
that's that's just the way things go but they're not it's not just that they're religious although
that's a big part of it they're actually a very conservative group of people by opinion paul
um i i will i will have to trust you ben stein final words this is still an incredibly
great wonderful country and i think we should spend every minute we have left on this planet
at least part of every minute thanking god on our knees for being allowed to live in this incredibly
great country and for being allowed to live under a free enterprise system under the constitution
it is a miracle in the history of mankind i agree gary collins final thoughts
fight for your right to party that's what i believe nate hoffman final thoughts i can't
really say it better than ben and gary so i'll uh i'll i'll leave it at that i just want to
end on this because i said i would always tell a story at the end of every show of an impactful
thing of an incredible thing that i saw ben do um error witness and um it's extremely important
this is 17 years ago and i've probably shared this before we were dog walking on the street
um and ben was sharing with me how he had donated money to al franken's campaign and me being in my
mid to late 20s couldn't understand how ben stein cadet could donate money to this liberal leftist
and ben said to me he said when i was starting out and al franken was a big help to me and i
remember that and i was loyal to him and that's ben stein and that was the lesson i learned today
that there's a lesson ben i wish you could impart upon every american because that was a really
special lesson you taught me it's not about party always it's about friendships and it's about bonds
and you understand that better than anybody well god bless your turn god bless you god bless you oh
well i downside dance jail a quarter to three when they had that night with daddy g we were
dancing we were rocking we were dancing all night two sounds of gary bonds that's bonds gary is
that that's the song for the tonight that's your song god bless you everybody have a great night
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