So much has happened since the Ultra Left took over the government a few months ago. But I can summarize it in a few words: the ultimate in human optimism, The Constitution of The United States of America, which protected us all and lit up mankind, has been replaced by the dank, oppressive prison of The Ministry of Fear: The Biden White House. No more freedom, only fear of what the new taskmasters will throw at us. Ask Matt Gaetz: in Biden America, just as in Stalin's Moscow, only an accusation was necessary. No trials. No due process. Only an accusation by the political backers of The Regime and a meaningful life is no more.
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okay go ahead god bless you and on this on that note i want to welcome everybody to the world
according to that man benjamin jeremy stein we are joined tonight by nate hoffman from the young
voices he's an associate contributor he's a writer he's also the youngest man to ever be on this
panel ah how old are you 22. i didn't realize that i had just uh achieved those honors but it's uh
honor and you achieved the whole point of this show that is the whole point of the show nate
great honor indeed sir and um drink your helper and of course we have with us on the run remso
martinez welcome as always what are you on the run from i'm sorry a lot of things well what could you
give us just to call the the top three or four no because the fbi is watching oh god be careful
he's actually on the run from people in the chat room that wanna that that disagree with him
oftentimes and i i wanna say to everybody we love this course on the show we love differing opinions
if all of us thought the same thing it would be the most boring discussion in the world but of
course this show wouldn't be complete without america's humble servant lawyer provocateur
actor sinner saint doctor um america's humble servant and america's teacher benjamin jericho
jeremy stein we salute you sir god bless you sir and um if you can move up a little bit
closer to the mic just a little bit that would be divine in dynamite thank you sir
um right away i want to get into this remso nate and ben um you posted today something
and it should be frightening to everybody something ben and i constantly have discussed
is that we defend people even if we don't like them we believe everybody in this country right
the right to speak and their right to due process so we we might hate somebody that's on the other
side we might hate somebody or dislike somebody very much that's on the other side but we'll still
defend their right to due process right and that is something lawyer know a little bit more about
due process than you do yes yes you do so why don't you explain to people what due process
is because then you get accused you get to go but you you or your lawyer or some person
representing you goes before a grand usually a grand jury or something similar to a grand jury
you then get to have discovery you get to talk to witnesses you get to look at papers and documents
and of anything else which is a memorandum of the event or the series of events that led to
your being indicted you then get to have a trial by jury in which you get to select the jury and
you get the questions and make sure that the jury is not initially prejudiced against you
and you then get to have a trial in which you get to call witnesses and you get to cross-examine the
other side's witnesses and the case is then put before the judge usually they drive to a jury but
it was unusual cases tried to a judge and then uh that uh that their verdict is rendered
and then uh the verdict can be appealed uh usually and not always they usually can be appealed
and then often but but none by no means all by no means always getting it to be appealed again
my by the way my assistant has just brought in a whole bunch of sugar cookies and i can only tell
you i wish i could share them with you and and and the reason we bring this up it's incredibly
unbelievably important and the reason we bring this up today is whether you like him whether
you dislike him whatever your opinions of matt gates are in america we have rape shield laws for
women right if the woman is raped she's allowed to bring the case and her name doesn't appear
for men on the other hand right we're releasing murderers into into our society and if you if nate
at this moment you're in school you're a young man you're you know you're a writer too if somebody
who defames you women find you irresistible i mean look at him at least one or two yeah
but it's a frightening time for i mean for your generation i mean it's like if
you get accused of something you're done that's right yeah
it's not just for his generation it's garnish it's everybody it's everybody but he's got to
live with it for the next 70 years and and college boys uh uh particularly you know i
think have a rough go of it um you know obviously there's a lot of college boys who deserve uh
the consequences of their actions because they are you know people who are sexually assaulted
noted i'll i'll try my best to self-censor as it were um but the there are a lot of young men whose
lives have been ruined uh spuriously because the increasingly the way that sort of college campuses
work is they are kangaroo courts and if you're accused that's enough and there have been a lot of
young men who have been awarded ungodly amounts of money for suing their colleges because they've had
their lives ruined by the colleges for accusations that turned out to be false may i may i
delved into that a little bit what are some of the colleges where the young men have been
awarded ungodly sums of money besides duke well duke i don't have them off of the top
of my head there have been some high profile cases at columbia and then a variety of sort
of small liberal arts colleges the one at columbia that was particularly significant
the woman carrying around the mattress yes yes yeah okay so so so there's there's no
words that i could think of to describe her i mean so many grams of i don't want i i don't
like i i'm worried when you after our last show i'm quite worried but you're quiet for a while
very tired i started uh you know i had a lot of work this week and you know i'm it's it's about
you're not happy you're not on the show anymore i i'm gonna go against that i don't want my free
speech taken away ah i like that remso touches i remember i like like you know i remember my
my sophomore year of college i was uh graduating from mary military and so it was a two-year
military junior college i was trying to figure out where to go for undergrad and i remember
the rolling stone debacle where basically a rolling stone reporter went ahead
and basically accused several men she knew who were at the university of virginia in a frat
of a rape and assault of a woman who didn't even exist and later on when the whole story
was found to be false all she said was well it's a story that could be real and that's the story
that i felt was real and it was just what you get yeah yeah often how it goes yeah you know
you know you know you have just said you have just said a [ __ ] mouthful rem show and this is a
terrifying situation and i i have that that that could happen is is breathtaking unbelievable
horrible that the person who wrote that story and her editor should be put before a firing squad
i don't know if i go that far but do you know that uh you know she ended up winning
an award that year and later she ended up losing her job after rolling stone went out
of their way to do a giant press store to basically defend her and then when it got
you know went when some side they went ahead and kicked her out and i know what she's been doing
she's probably working at arby's or something but there's a situation that i remember not that bad
i just want to address these guys you know it's it's the curly fries that they go ahead and throw
out but anyway it's uh it it's another situation where you know this was one of those things that
i believed it and i was looking at uva and i remember at the time thinking god i don't want
to go to that school then everyone's going to go ahead and say oh wow is it the school
from the rolling stone story the joke is on me i went to liberty university so you know
things like things got funnier liberty it it is a great people but people go ahead and when i
bring it up now they go ahead and just accuse it of all these just terrible things and then
well i mean the accusations of jerry falwell and his wife and their illicit
you know relationship with the pool boy or he's like i mean it's literally out of a porno yeah
it was one of you could not make fun of me i know jerry falwell jerry falwell junior jerry falwell
yeah he he left his position ben he left his position at liberty liberty university unfollowed
me on twitter so i i don't feel scared to talk about it oh allegiance i don't yeah
we don't want you to feel scared about anything but but uh my experience with this gentleman
was that he was one of the finest man i have ever met and his wife was
an absolute saint and so uh it really horrifies me that they're being persecuted they they
were incredibly wonderful but again we don't know that we don't know if the story is true
we kind of know although i think in this case he did not deny it ever which you know yeah
and the recordings came out which made it all the more awkward the recordings of watcher
him and his wife on the phone with the pool boy talking about a trip like i don't know how far
details you want me to go ben it was i would like to do a very saying some things that one would not
usually say to their pool boy yeah so i had a conversation with my pool man just this morning
okay so so jerry oh god okay i wish i had started drinking so jerry falwell and his wife used to
go to orlando or was it miami it was either orlando or miami where they met the pool boy
they uh they got into a business relationship where he was running a hostile
a hostel which used to be basically just overrun of homeless people and the reason why was because
they needed to keep him quiet because he was having a sexual affair of becky falwell
in which jerry falwell would stand in the corner of the room and watch them engage in sexual acts
and at one point you know it came out and you know they quickly denied it the poor boy was given
a large sum of money not to talk about it and then several years later um you know it came out and
not only did it come out with him providing text messages showing a conversation between him jerry
jr and becky but he also recorded most of their conversations in which they were talking about
uh you know sexual escapades they had been on so when it came out about six months
ago uh jerry falwell jr was asked to resign from his role as president of the university
i would just like to back up and say uh without questioning your brilliance honesty and charm
thank you i have now i've known jared the falwell family for a really long time and
they're incredibly wonderful people and i liked them they were always kind of they could be
wonderful people who like to have three ways with pool boys that i mean it was theirs necessarily
for god's sake gentlemen we are talking on a zoom and we often talk about politics
and we all politics sometimes the name john f kennedy comes up
for god's sake anything you're talking about about the fall well is child's play it's just
a joke it's like a kitten playing with a ball of yarn you're completely right let's get back
i just i just want to get back to this quickly the matt gates thing we we know nothing of this story
you have mccarthy oddly enough you know the the head of the republicans saying you know if this
story is true we'll get rid we'll get rid of him immediately you know there's a point where what is
the story that's exactly right nobody even knows the story no not one person knows the story it's
a new york times report who every single one of us knows for four years did not base anything on fact
in fact almost all of their stories were based in the land of fiction and and people are obviously
people are trusting the new york times to be fair i don't even want to say balance to have did and
and and they're trusting it and i respectfully say since i am the old man here i'm probably as old as
all of you the rest of you put together at least all the guys on the bottom put together plus some
i used to be a columnist in the new york times for a number of years they fired me
for doing commercials for uh ostensibly for doing commercials and they the editor at the new york
times who delivered this message had been asking me for souvenirs from the commercials and they
then said also that i was writing about finance while i was an employee of a major investment bank
i've never worked for one minute for an investment panic i mean so that was just totally made up so
with respect to to do to you remso and do you and you of course due to my dear dear friends
with the greatest possible respect the fact is in the new york times doesn't mean a huge
amount well that's i think that's what judo is saying and i just want to echo that you know i'm
it's i don't disbelieve that this is something that matt gates did you know if there's a
member of congress who was soliciting uh sexual acts from a 17 year old i think
matt gates would probably be pretty high on my list of suspects i am not i am not prepared to
take the new york times report as anything credible because i don't believe anything i
read in the new york times i want to ask you why you say that about congress i got to be honest
with you ben i'm i got to be honest i i and i think most people that are honest with themselves
i had the same exact thought that nate did it doesn't mean there's something about him i gotta
be honest with you that is that is right out of to kill a mockingbird that is no no no no ben ben i'm
not saying i believe the story what he's saying is when there are certain people in life when
it doesn't mean i would ever repeat what they're saying and i don't believe
what there's i don't believe it until i see it and he is innocent 100 million percent in my book
but you know some people you're allowed to say they're a little they're a little you know you
and i give you you know a vibe where you're like you know if i were a girl i wouldn't i'd keep my
hand over my drink at a point harvey weinsteinish with all due respect as far as i'm aware and i i
don't know harvey weinstein i used to see him across the room at a restaurant i used to go to
quite often i've never spoken a word to him i've never pitched a script him uh i'd like to to see
the convictions in this case i'd like i agree with you about the harvey weinstein
actually i know some of the girls who have accused him yesterday two-bit [ __ ] is just it's not even
good enough right there are there there are videos of weinstein you know doing uh things
that you would not want to have done to your doc your daughter let's put it there you know what
i don't have a daughter with it but i would not want to see my daughters i don't have a daughter
i don't i would not want to see my daughter having sex with anyone that doesn't mean it's against the
law or immoral there's sex with your daughter it's not something you necessarily want to see and yeah
that's true and nate there's a difference between a guy doing certain really shady things and bad
things and and should have been fired for certain reason than harvey weinstein being imprisoned for
the rest of his life for nothing that we could see you can't you don't you don't put people in prison
for thought you don't put people in prison because they gross you out half of america would be in
prison which we sort of are right now if everybody was in prison for things we disagreed with
or or certain business actions are looking totally shocked so this worries me i don't know i'm kind
of lost where we're going with this well we're going to you in a second if you just [ __ ] please
if if you just tuned in you are listening to the world according to that man benjamin
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review on apple podcast i want to see rem says rhymes does mocking now right
ramsay we know you we know you're mocking us and you're mocking us but i want to see
what the evidence is i i don't know what i don't know what i'm mocking i mean we just raped anyone
do you want me to go ahead and start googling all the things that harvey weinstein i want to
see all the act the accusations are all over the place the proof the convictions where are they
so there's the the i i'm the first person to admit that i don't know the details about the
weinstein case and certainly i think some of the more serious allegations it sounds like
were not substantiated there are videos online of harvey weinstein acting like a scumbag to
women yes it doesn't that doesn't make it illegal that doesn't mean that he should he
deserves to go to jail but it does demonstrate that he's not taking the right that's the whole
point here nate that's the whole point here kid out thank the middle of the [ __ ] nowhere or
in argonne i've been working for 46 years i get shot 45 years i could show you endless videotape
of people in hollywood acting like scumbags that's what hollywood is i totally believe it yeah i just
want to say i don't think harvey weinstein isn't necessarily um we're not saying we're none of
us are saying that that's kind of it's kind of like where this is going though like i'll i'll
unders i'll understand where what what this is supposed to lead to am i supposed to be defending
i'm not taken aside i'm just that's all that was the evidence of submitting none of us no no no
the whole point in this conversation is everybody deserves due process right we we we don't go to
jail because people think we're bad we don't go to jail because people don't like certain actions we
do if liberty university didn't feel comfortable jerry falwell jr at that point he didn't do
anything illegal he didn't do anything with matt gates we have absolutely no proof of anything
there's no story being reported which is the absolute shocking part that we're day three
into this matt gates thing and there's not one you know picture of this supposed person and
watch after the show it's going to come out but there's not one there's not one thing and for
the rest of his life he's going to have to defend this thing and that is in that in america in 2021
is an absolute disgrace so it it's and we have to always remember this is what it goes back to
we have to defend people even when we despise them that that's america is defending people's
free speech as much as we hate it sometimes and that's what separates us from people on the left
and that's what separates us from the rest of the people but i want to move on and once
again ramza please tell people where they could find this because we got a little interrupted
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we're joined tonight by nate hochman from young voices association of young voice of america he's
associated contributor of course ramzan martinez get his podcast please it's on the run with ramzan
martinez it's an amazing podcast i humbly suggest everybody get an of course america's humble
servant benjamin jeremy stein um and one of the other things i wanted to talk about that we have
this thing going on in georgia where first is the all-star game that's threatening to leave georgia
we have companies like coca-cola we have companies like delta which are threatening certain things
so we literally have people and companies with zero integrity going after voter integrity i
mean the irony and the sadness ben and the sickness of that that these companies and people
call voter integrity laws racist is absolutely who do business might i add with countries
who have no concern over human rights man i love that i love the conclusion of your of your remarks
the wall street journal had a fine fine piece about what is in the uh georgia voting laws
near the proposed church of voting laws and there's nothing it's nothing it's like just
prove you're a citizen wherever you live in georgia prove you're at the right age
and that's it garnish that's that's it it doesn't say like the ku klux klan has looked
at your application and decided that you're okay i mean they are complaining about the most basic
trivia about identification and that's that that to me is amazing and not it astonishes me
that the shareholders of these corporations get no voice whatsoever in the decisions of the head of
the companies i'm a small shareholder of a number of the companies that are talking whose chairman
are talking here i didn't get any vote here i mean i didn't ask him to butt into this issue what's he
doing what the hell is he doing where where's his authority come from well and can i just say
uh not only are they just basic measures as far as voting integrity goes but they are
the measures that every other developed country in the western world has i mean this is something
that the left doesn't talk about obviously because it's inconvenient to their narrative but
almost every other developed country in the world is voter id laws america has some of
the most poorest uh uh easily manipulatable voter integrity laws on the books in the developed world
right if any sort of non-partisan person looking at the georgia law would see that it's just common
sense it's not racist it's not discrimination it is basic common sense right we ask for your id
you know if you want to drive we ask for your id at the post office we ask for your id when you're
buying alcohol but somehow when you're voting you know the most important thing a citizen can do
it's racist to ask for your id it's ridiculous and it's and the the the trend with major corporations
trying to pressure red states into basically adhering to the left-wing program
is a really disturbing thing that we've seen happen in a lot of different places
uh on on a really large scale and you're starting to see these major corporations subvert democracy
in important ways in uh in in dakota uh you know um the governor christie gnome had to run edge on
her bill banning transgender women from competing in women's sports because all of these major
companies said we're gonna pull our business out of of your state and she said our my state can't
take it economically and she has reneged right same thing happened in abort with the abortion
laws in georgia so it's really worrying that these major companies are throwing their weight around
you're so right you're so incredibly right and the trans thing in north carolina right didn't they
got threatened by the nsa petty ncaa tournament um it's it's it's it's remso i mean it is um going on
all over this absolute uh threatening and and this is going back to what we were talking about before
but to change the subject making these accusations remso for people that are involved are terrifying
i mean i don't like brian kemp at all but for he doesn't need to be called a racist for the rest of
his life i agree yay but consensus we're getting into a very bad situation i never i never said
that we should just go ahead and throw everyone who you wanted to call him right i'm so i didn't
think i didn't walk home i didn't call him racist i i i didn't call him that i didn't call him that
okay uh okay i i never okay i'm so totally decent you're the you you're the most honest
person of high integrity that we can possibly find in this whole country
right thank you what i'm trying what i'm trying to say is like no one no one is saying that we
need to go ahead and throw these people in prison or anything that the problem is no
is that we're at the point where you know we're less of a nation of laws and we're more of a
nation of men where you go ahead and you get a loud enough minority of individuals to go ahead
and scream something enough and pressure people enough that that we can get to this point right
now and i think it's primarily because that conservatives have given up the institutions
they didn't fight enough to go ahead and maintain culture of the arts and entertainment they didn't
go ahead and fight for academia and right now to be a conservative now is to you know put your kid
through k through 12 public education stick them in front of the internet and tv and then wonder
why did we lose the next generation that's brilliantly exactly right and and this is why
all of the power centers in american life have turned to the left right this is why big business
which used to be the backbone of the conservative coalition is now throwing its weight around to try
to make sure that biological men can compete in women's sports it's been totally captured
by not just the left but the hard left and this small minority of americans who do not represent
the way the majority of americans or even the majority of democrats think but have an enormous
amount of power in all of the power centers and the institutions in american life it is
and servers are on the back it's an amazing success story of less leftist infiltration
of the culture and the society generally is an amazing thing incredibly reminiscent of how the
fuhrer and the national socialist democrat uh the executive workers party just completely took over
germany germany after world war one was one of the most liberal open-minded countries in europe
when the national socialist nazis got to work they just changed everyone's way of thinking the
same thing with japan after world war one japan was for an asian country extremely open-minded
when the militarists took control they put in the thought police the kenpitai as we've talked
about in this show before and they got people's brains rewired and the same thing is happening
in america people's brains are being rewired one of my closest friends has a young daughter
i think 10 or 11 or 12 i don't know i don't i'm not sure i've ever met her anyway
she and she is being taught in school uh virtual learning as they call it nowadays uh to
blame her mother and her mother makes even the slightest most trivial minutes
absolutely my news uh politically incorrect comment she attacks her mother she's 10 or 11
years old but nate let me ask you a quick question so you're the you know you're you're the youngest
in the bunch you're still you know you're still in school and i i'm not saying that when i say that
you're the youngest you're you know you're a very bright guy and do you go do people on your campus
i don't know if you're on campus right now because of kovid do they know your political opinions
they know my political opinions because i'm incredibly outspoken about being a conservative
but that has cost me dearly in terms of my social life i mean luckily i have a really
good group of buddies who don't care about my politics so you know the greater campus i
think has i have a reputation as a racist and a sexist and you know all of the sort of ists
uh but i i have a good group of friends which doesn't matter but i am lucky in that way
most people who are sort of conservative or even just are sort of skeptical of the far left never
speak up and never make their objections heard because if you don't have a really close-knit
group of friends who's going to stick with you even when you get attacked on campus
you're sacrificing everything by questioning reports i think you told me before as we were
getting ready for the show but would you be so kind is to remind this old and very forgetful
brain of wha what uh what school you go to against her colorado college which is a little uh liberal
arts college out in colorado springs god bless you right you didn't i'm shocked it's a liberal arts
college but you know and i want to just i just want to quickly want to say this to everybody
because we get this all the time there's there's only so much banning you could do
okay or boy you know it's like it's going to be very hard for me to give up this this drink that i
don't want to say the name of right now it's very hard for us to give up you know being you know
using the apple store it is it's really difficult as much as we despise these companies i wish
people would despise them more you know people on the left would despise them more for the for for
being in business with company with countries that commit real atrocities you know it it's the
it's the most ironic thing that nba players and major league baseball players are threatening to
leave georgia over an all-star game yet have no issues whatsoever with being broadcast in china
or saudi arabia but still allows ownership of women by men ownership of women by men no it's
it it's a it's a rhymes with you i'm sorry no i'm just scratching my face rem so nobody was accusing
you by the way of anything uh just so you know i think there was a bit of miscommunication that
happened but that sometimes does happen i love you i'm i'm totally fine i wasn't i was just running
and that's and you know that's the truth ben loves you like uh like uh
uh much younger brother much yeah grandchild grandchild grandpa and you can brag about
that and uh remso i'll finish your sentence because i'm curious now oh
i forgot that was 15 minutes ago i think i got i think i got most of it across though
let's go back to the beginning look we're losing we've lost we've lost free speech
that's gone that's history garnish doesn't you say we've lost but we're rapidly on the way to
losing the second amendment that's really a terribly serious matter we're rapidly losing
due process which is incredible right to a fair trial that's incredibly unbelievably important
we really are are way way down the road away from the constitution the united states of america now
there's some psychopath from uh at least i call it i'm not i'm not a trained psychiatrist uh although
i am a doctor and but do you take medicaid do i no i don't i don't take any insurance and i
i uh but this nut case uh says just abandon the constitution because it's racist written
by racist men the constitution is the greatest document ever struck off by the hand of man at
any one time any one purpose so said gladstone the great english statesman and because of this jerk
whose name i can't even pronounce we're supposed to give up the constitution but it's happening
it's happening right now and it's not just one jerk i mean a lot of a lot of people are saying
that the entire idea of like the 1619 project narrative is that america is fundamentally
rotten to its core and that view is sort of the conventional wisdom of most of our institutions
never even heard of that what is that what is that i've never even heard of that the 1619
project it won a pulitzer prize in uh 2019 it was a new york times series of essays by nicole
hannah jones and a bunch of other people that she enlisted that essentially said that 1776
wasn't america's true founding it was 1619 which is when the first black slaves were brought over
and the idea basically is that you know the way to understand america isn't the declaration of
independence or the constitution or the speeches and statesmanship of abraham lincoln it's slavery
and fundamental fundamentally you know the character of america is that it is a racist
country that enslaved black people that's all you really need to know about america that's what it
is at its heart and that view is the one that's being taught as conventional wisdom in all the
academies today and it's one that all of our cultural and political elites it was adopted
as a public school curriculum taught in social studies classes k through 12. thank god a lot of
republican governors have moved to to ban it and to ban critical race theory but not quickly enough
so there you are ben and we are learning we truly are learning a lot tonight
and before i get to this point you have taught us a lot tonight
and before we and before we get to rem you know nate i just wanted you know into the
people that are listening you know um i i pray that you continue with your with your with with
this voice because it's it's really beautiful but i also it's so important that we remember
getting back to everything that that just because we don't like somebody or just because
something may appear there's a lot of people we don't like and there's a lot of stories that have
appeared to be shown factually correct the reason they chose duke or duke was
the reason why duke was so easy because it's like remember there's a documentary for people that
they're not doing it was called i i hate christian lightner right and they hated him because they had
this vision of christian layton or being a duke of being this certain he had um you know he came
from good stock kristen lightner grew up there you know didn't did not grow he's one of he's a
very famous college basketball player that won the ncaa championship my point being is we don't judge
a book by its cover or what we perceive the cover to be we wait for the book to be read in america
and and um that's just my humble opinion and we always have to be very careful
um on that note remso please tell people where they could find us hey make sure you go ahead
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world of ben jim and jeremy steiner joined tonight by nate hoffman am i saying it correctly um from
from young voices of america he's associate contributor and of course on the run with ramza
martinez and of course america's humble servant benjamin jeremy stein and um uh you know one of
the things i just wanted to talk about quickly um is i was picking up for ben a propane tank
and um uh or two it's very hard to find propane these days there apparently is a propane shortage
and i wanted to get quickly into this thing because the border crisis out of control but
obviously the homeless epidemic in los angeles is out of control and ben i was on riverside and uh
coldwater you know where they had one of those homeless encampments you know where
uh it's it's one of the preferred sites of the homeless um yelp gives it good reviews and um
yeah is that a joke yes of course that's a joke um uh but i could see at the certain point yelp
giving there being a homeless app for the best uh for the best sites and i was getting this propane
tank and um the guy there was a homeless there were a bunch of homeless people around and the guy
had had to scream at people not to go in the store while he was getting me this propane tank and this
guy i could see he was in real fear and he sits in this store on a daily basis there's absolutely
no police officers around as we know and been in los angeles often times there are no cops
and it's if people don't talk about enough the effect that the homeless population or
homeless epidemic is happening on businesses is having on people going into stores the
fear that people walk around with you know you somebody brought up having a daughter if i had
a daughter i wouldn't want her walking around in certain parts of los angeles right now well i do
have a granddaughter and she is in a very very wonderful town called greenville south carolina
uh and i think her she her parents even in that incredibly incredibly charming town
uh don't let her walk around by herself but i think she's i don't know how it just eight or nine
years old but uh my dear dear a dear dear friend of mine has a daughter i think i was telling you
about her the most politically correct little monster ever but a very very sweet kid uh is uh
she wouldn't let her walk around by herself i mean it's yeah but but i'd like to ask the question
nate you're very very well informed young man i'm so you're a very very well informed young man
judy are very very well informed not as informed as them they're pretty great where the hell did
all these homeless people come from well you could ask nate that because nate brought up before the
show to people he's you're from portland or um and i've been in portland and i was in portland um
over 20 years ago and i remember people saying to me beforehand it's one of the most beautiful
places you'll ever see but they also said it has a huge teen homeless epidemic yeah and i thought
to my inner teens teen teen homeless epidemic and i thought they were like i i didn't really know of
teen homeless epidemics and i don't know what it spawns from if it came from the grungy nate if it
came from it but then there is a massive epidemic of homelessness and teen homeless epidemic
teen homelessness in portland nate you could speak about that more than and it's only getting worse
i mean this is the thing judah right is it it's been bad for a while but portland has the single
worst homelessness problem in the country now by some metrics and a lot of it is what metrics
is as a obvious as a version i think by the amount of people out on the street per capita you know
san francisco has a higher body of homeless people you know in sheer numbers because it's a much
bigger city but the it is a lot of young people and you can sort of there's a it's like with any
issue it's multifaceted so some of it the people who are out there year round it's a mental health
problem and these are people who fell through the cracks and it's really tragic it's people
who aren't capable of caring for themselves and have been sort of failed by local city government
but our homeland hopelessness population triples in the summer you have 300 percent more people
coming in and those are all young people who are capable who ride you know trains into the city
that's right and and they you know they sleep out on the streets they're sort of open drug use
needles everywhere and and that is a just systemic failure of portland's law enforcement and of the
their laws themselves where the reason everyone comes to portland is they have the most permissive
laws in terms of open drug use open camping on the streets of any city in the country so everyone
knows portland's the city to go to in the summer and it it it's the strongest city i mean it's not
hyperbole i don't i don't get it it's it's been it's it's it's it's to them i guess it's it's a
sick that the pride version of their sick of the 60s they they think they're out there for the
summer of love shooting up maybe dying you know and all that jazz i don't know i know that grunge
i would imagine infused a lot of this into that culture especially in seattle and portland
but i could be totally talking out of my ass about that but that seems to have been the time
when heroin became very chic in the united states and you know you had people overdosing
you know you know you know a lot of the famous singers which has always happened but especially
then with overdosing but you know the the question i i was thinking to myself was i don't feel safer
in america right now than i did five years ago as i was walking around this gas station
forget about covet i don't i didn't feel safe i'm from i'm from new york when that meant something
pre giuliani when you know my father told me to ride a red you know run a red if if one of
those people if somebody that was trying to clean my windshield came up to me he would
say just go through it and i i really uh it's a frightening proposition that's going on right now
and i don't know what the um what the cure is i i really don't i i want to back up a second
and that you're a very young man you're i think you told us you're 21 or 22 right yep 22. you do
and let's go crosswise on the screen so is judah right are these people doing this because it's
they think it's the summer of love well it's a combination of a lot of things right so like
i said there are the the chronically homeless people who are there year round who often times
disproportionately have schizophrenic uh disorder uh bipolar disorder and are people that really
are incapable of taking care of themselves and have been failed by the system right and that's
really tragic but the kids my age who are coming in in the summer and are by and large you talk to
them they're completely normal they're capable of holding down a job if they wanted one but they'd
rather panhandle and hang out with their friends yeah it's it's entertainment for them right it's
fun and edgy to sort of hop trains in you know a city back east and sort of come out here and
camp and and do drugs and and sort of sleep outside all summer it's it's something that is for
them and a lot of them i think come from broken homes right it's not a normal thing to do if
you're a kid to do this but they're they are are relatively normal capable people who this is their
idea of entertainment uh and fun and it it's it's having a really deleterious effect on the city
tell me i have your i mean you you are the second youngest you're an extremely acute observer what
how do you see this what happened i i've you know sp speaking of somebody who lives right outside
of dc um you know as as a mayor mariel bowser once said the homeless ad diversity but i've
been to the um you know i've been to the capitol you tell me that's a joke you know i wish it was
oh um yeah i've been i've been to the capital of four different countries and the one thing
that you don't often see you know i went to uh new i went to canberra in australia i
went to auckland new zealand i went to um you know uh uh quebec and i've been to reykjavik
iceland and the one thing that i always know is that they have severe lack of homeless people
and i'm not praising socialism at all but what you have in some of these countries
is a severe intolerance of homelessness especially in you know these uh these
capitals because they understand how it makes the country look you know there are
many factors that go into it but to a large degree we've begun to really tolerate this
as something that um you know we we just need to get accustomed to you know when i was in australia
i remember going to canberra the first time and i mentioned to my mother i'm like hey you know
there's really no homeless people here and then one of our friends who was a local went ahead and
said yeah that's because what we do is we go ahead and we stick them in the building and they're not
allowed to leave until they tell us how they're going to go ahead and actually get a job and stop
panhandling on the streets you know i think that's a very common thing that we you know have just
kind of lost track of we expect nothing of these people and we treat them all as either they're all
destitute like something out of a charles dickens novel or if they're all mentally ill i also think
that you know with the abolishment of a majority of american insane asylums i mean everyone thinks
that something out of mary shelley's frankenstein or something like that but when you look at you
know like like the 1970s 1980s for example you know they they were very livable conditions
there's trans-allegheny lunatic asylum in uh in west virginia and a lot of the people there that
give tours of the institution halls now were former patients and former caretakers and what
they said was this was probably the best thing for a lot of people here who had schizophrenia who had
met many other mental issues because it was the only place they could be treated with respect
given three meals a day in a bed and what we try and do now is we say oh we freed all the
all the people from all this torture and all this other stuff but where are they now they're
just living on the streets so i think it's a big issue but we've we've just come to tolerate it
yeah but a bigger a bigger thing is because of the and we brought this up the other night because of
the aclu we can't get them off the street so somebody brought up that they call caltrans
or they call the police i mean i was driving up laurel canyon one day and there was a you know
street in los angeles sorry but yeah mr street in los angeles very famous very nice street in
los angeles called laurel canyon where there are multi-million dollar homes at the beginning of it
and there was a homeless encampment there or there were a couple homeless people and
this woman was complaining to a friend of mine about these homeless people and i said
well who do you vote for and at the thing at the time she said you know garcetti or
whoever it was and i said i said there you are it's your fault and uh what you vote for
you get what you vote for she did not like my answer and um she proceeded to walk away but um
there you are and something else i want to bring up is i used to um just so people
understand mental illness is addiction right so if you have addiction you're suffering from some
form of mental illness right it's it's called the disease by the american medical association
whether you believe it or not down the street from me i used to have a homeless guy in his dog
every night i'd walk past them and i'd give them some food and i felt terrible for the dog
and this guy shared with me a story that he had a place to live ben from the government from
california gave him a place to live where he could live with his dog he finally got a place for him
and his dog and i was so happy for him a week later he was there and i said to him when this
i swear to people i said what are you still doing here and mind you i live in the val then where in
the summer 100 at night is nice and he said to me i can't get to the methadone clinic on time
from if if i'm at the other if i'm at the other establishment he didn't want he was missing his
his methadone treatment in the morning if he were to take government assistance and and and i hate
to say addiction is a big reason people love to bring up that's because somebody lost their
job but they're the minority of that group they are the absolute i'm sorry you're so right 100
right and who's pushing bush and bushing to make marijuana a gateway drug if there ever was one
legal everywhere and say it's cool and great and who cheers like man at conventions when
they talk about legalizing marijuana everywhere and marijuana is garbage and it's poison and and
yet the democrat party is pushing it down the throats of americans all over this great country
one one really quick thing i just i it is important to emphasize just how
important the point remso is making about insane asylums that is not a policy debate
that is talked about very much but it's so true i have some friends who do really sort of close
intimate work with asylum policy and it is a direct example of how left-wing ideology directly
hurts the most marginalized uh and vulnerable americans you have crazy examples where 95
of the people in these asylums who can't take care of themselves and their families say they want to
stay say that the favor their favorite place to be and the place they prefer to be is inside these
asylums where they're taken care of they're fed they're cared for by professionals and you have
left-wing activists driven by this really crazy ideology that says that any institution is bad
just by virtue of it being an institution overriding the wishes of the patients
and saying we're shutting it down you have to go back out and live with your family your family
has to take care of you uh and you have to take care of yourself because just the they they saw
one flew over the cuckoo's nest or something and decided that every asylum was was abusive and it
is it is you the the spike in in homelessness is a direct result of that and it's really it's
just a shame and it's cruel it's really cruel to these people and their families but may i make a
point that's i'm a little bit embarrassed to make this point but i'm afraid i must in the
interest of truth this whole idea of closing down the mental hospitals was a republican idea
it started with nelson rockefeller who said we don't need to have mental hospitals anymore we
can give people psychoactive medications it's a lot cheaper than housing them in metal hospitals
and it was then picked up in our beloved and beautiful california by our beloved
and beautiful ronald wilson reagan so uh i i i hate to say this because i i am a republican
through and through but uh i i think this idea originally regained with the republicans i'm sorry
all right well i was just gonna say it was it was the liberal wing of the republican party who
they're all democrats now so it's worth clarifying it wasn't conservatives it was a republican party
that had people who are now all democrats i'm not sure that's true i think because he's saying
ronald reagan you know and we know and we all know ronald reagan was was as conservative as
well in many you know as he did i think it was just very cheap and foolish republicans and and if
i may say so uh they had no idea what to whether or not these psychoactive drugs would work they
really didn't so my bet my the the bigger question i have is we we have these crisis going on right
now we we do i mean i i i you know i i i we're ben and i are used uh massive trump supporters i know
remzo is not massive but you did vote for him and i'm not gonna ask you a bit about that nate
but there were plenty of times during trump's administration work he would say something where
i'd say god i wish he wouldn't you know we're in our guts we wish he wouldn't have said something
ben was speaking to a person that he's very close to and the other night who said i'm not kidding
ben you could say the story that you know because we see biden reading from note cards everywhere
oh boy we all know let's be real i mean i don't care who you are we know he's got
some sort of uh uh yeah a big neurological problem happening in that brain of his and that's a nice
way of saying it and um and ben what did your friend say to you about the the the note cards
yeah alas was a little closer than a friend trying to be nice uh it was uh
this person said it was a republican invention it was conservative fake uh the count by the
photos had been doctored and were fraud and uh this that really he had no problem with the uh
press conference at all and that these pictures were shown of the uh biden having uh notes of
the questions and answers were fraudulent and that's also a picture of shawna biden
right over by the shoulder of blind with pictures of the reporters
reporters is really a funny way of putting it of the the sycophant jerks in the in the audience uh
uh and just so he would remember their names that that was fraudulent too so uh they're they're none
so blind as those who will not see i mean it is absolutely frightening and it is a great quote
who came up with that just because that thing you did the last thing you just said about blind man
i believe it's in the bible um there he goes that's why it's a brilliant quote but nate
let me ask you a question since your friend you know i mean i know you have a close-knit group of
friends i'm sure at one point you are on facebook and you're not with the same people as you once
as you might have been um how how is it um is there any critical thinking going on on campus
uh you know there is behind closed doors but it's never out in the open and it's actively
discouraged in the open right this is sort of what i was talking about earlier where anyone who is
critical at all of the of the campus orthodoxy is punished pretty severely for being outspoken about
it so the way the critical thinking happens is sort of in between the cracks you know it's like
someone comes up to you you know in a dorm room something and they go you know i'm not
sure about this i'm really questioning this this doesn't make sense but it's in hush tones uh it's
whispers it is uh it is not done sort of boldly uh in the same way that you know mouthing left
wing platitudes are but i just to ben's point it's so funny because if you would believe this
sort of media narrative republicans are the crazy conspiracy theorists right and democrats are the
voice of science and and reason and expertise but you know it's it's pretty amazing to watch
all of this happen right i mean when biden was accused of sexual assault by tara reid
it was right back to monica lewinsky and bill clinton you can't believe her she has
ulterior motives she was asking for it etc and the same thing is happening with andrew
cuomo right now i mean literally there are people writing op-eds and major accounts on
twitter pushing the idea that the accusations against andrew cuomo are a trump conspiracy
because andrew cuomo somehow has control over trump court cases because they're filed in new
york and this is all somehow trumped out to get cuomo and it's all fake and it's drummed up by
trump and his lawyers right i mean it's bananas it is as crazy as the most crazy fever swamp
trump mega conspiracy theory stuff that exists and it's it is echoed by the sort of mainstream
institutions that are supposed to be the hard-nosed voices of reason and expertise and they
don't even understand how hypocritical they are there is total lack of self-awareness well with it
ben he's not saying that cuomo is innocent or not or the accusations are true or not
he's basically saying that this is the narrative they're writing that it's a
trump uh conspiracy i understand that but but i'm very glad you brought that up young young
young very smart man and from the wilds of oregon the the things that koala i i can't stand calmly
just just making tron and puke just to look at him but but the uh the things he's accused of doing
most of them not all muslim are so trivial that it is shameful that they are merit newspaper column
space any day holding a woman's hand to help her get out of her chair pulling the chair back
uh kissing a woman on the cheek when he's campaigning that's what politicians do i mean
yes there's an accusation that he fills up a woman and lifted up her dress or looks over her sweater
or something developed if that's true terrible that's absolutely terrible that's sexual battery
very serious but the most of the things he's accused of doing are just absolute nothing crap
and i i i don't like him uh i would be very very happy if he retired and went back to wherever he
came from but uh i i think he went to prison for his with the nursing homes um i would just say i
think some of the stuff he's being accused for is uh is more serious uh you know and there's it's
like what are a variety of more physical things yeah you you are the one who seems to have chapter
and verse what are those things well there i mean there are a variety of different examples of him
sort of uh having young aides into his office and asking them uh you know a series of questions that
are sort of sexual asking them what positions they like in bed whether or not they'd be with an older
man like him uh and while it's just the two of them uh in his office yeah it's it's it's creepy
i don't think i don't think uh particularly men in positions of power should should be talking to
women my age like that it's not criminal but it is it is scummy and it's condemning no it actually
it's creating a hostile work environment that nobody should have to say that nobody
should have to sit here i agree with that you mean really doing that that's bad
but you you've brought up a word that is we are living in a time when trivial things
have become you you know gas chamber okay we are living in a time where if you say
something out of whack if you do something a little you know mischievous or whatever it is
you belong you should be hung in the town square
sorry ben your cookies were too good most of us not mischievous
thank you miss thank you mrs levin and um and uh and that's what we're that's what
we have to fight right now and i want to ask you nate you know your your college voice your
um voices for america your guys are young you guys are fighting this what are you doing to fight back
uh well for me i mean it begins on the college campus right now because that's where i am and
these are the heart of everything that's going wrong in america right i mean this is where the
next generation of the political cultural elites in america are being trained to hate
their country and trained in to sort of abandon critical theory or critical thinking altogether
and and to basically have this incredibly deranged world view that they then they then try to
put into a larger political and cultural regime which we're seeing now so that to me you know
i started a conservative magazine on campus dedicated to sort of free speech to airing uh
you got something you got balls the size of bayonne good for you well like i said i i did
it knowing that i was going to get a real black backlash but you need more kids who are willing
to take to take the hits and to get the backlash to speak out and stand up for just common sense
and decency on these campuses i'd like to just give give us a hopeful note my wifey and i employ
quite a number of people who were born outside of this country in asia and southeast asia and uh
quite quite a large number and and also quite a number a number who were born
in mexico or guatemala and uh and they are all wildly pro-american pro-constitution scoffered
the idea that there's something basically wrong with this country are incredibly grateful to be
here i'm incredibly happy to be here and this i see as the hope of america is these people from
foreign countries who come here and they've seen what it's like in foreign countries they know how
damn good it is here immigrants immigrants are more patriotic than native born americans now
and that's precisely because they know how much they have to lose and spoiled wealthy white
trust fund kids who go to elite colleges have no idea how much worse they could get and and
because i i think you know he's right on the money i think he's 100 right about that
i just said it too why did you smile then because of the way that he phrased it he didn't say you
weren't as pejorative as i was no i i i i absolutely love this i i really do because i
like i said nate i think you have you are the you know in rem so too you know have the guts
to be on a college campus especially where you are and to have a conservative magazine and you know
i'm sure you're scared of your grades i'm sure you're scared of you know physical retribution
you know by you know peaceful pacifists hitting you i'm sure these things can be really scary
and i gotta tell you you are you're incredible what you're doing it is i mean it is ben's been
doing this for 50 years i don't you know people don't realize about what a lot older than that
no no no but i'm saying you've been fighting the good fight for a long long time when it is when it
isn't popular and that's the hardest fight to fight sometimes and we need i mean we will do
whatever we can do nate do let us know if there's anything we can do to help you guys at colorado
college or wherever you guys are i it's incredible what you're doing um remzo's done the same thing
and remsa i think it's incredible too even though i've been out of college a little while you've
been out of college but you're still battling in new york college you took a stand against things
you didn't make you the most popular person so that's a very commendable and respectable thing um
on that note i want to thank everybody that's been listening to this extremely um sometimes lively
sometimes not so live but then i'd say very very lively conversation and i would like to say that i
was not familiar with your work nate but i am very very impressed with you and i hope we get to see a
great deal more of you in the near future i'm not sure what that ring is but i think it's because
somebody made me turn off the air conditioning and some kind of alarm bell is ringing in my room here
we're doing this but anyway uh god bless your soul and i would like to end on that note by saying no
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smoke gets in your eyes that's not i skipped a few verses but it's a wonderful song and on
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