The World According To Ben Stein

We are Counter Culture!

Episode Summary

Who ever thought it would be us The Trumpicans, The New Conservatives and The Deplorable’s who would be the New Counter Culture the New Punk Rock? Unapologetic, Non-capitulating and not just embracing it, but loving it.

Episode Transcription

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yeah you're being you're being serious welcome sir  welcome ben stein what is it wednesday are you in  

san francisco no he's in indiana as always but he  was just telling me before we start the show sir  

if you could hear me he was just telling  me that his the guy that gave him his  

hair used to be an ob gyn so he went from one end  to the other end and on that note ben you look  

great i want to welcome everybody to the world  according to batman benjamin jeremy stein  

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to ben stein have you ever got that bridge there  big sir that's really scary no no i haven't and  

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mood i'll tell you why in a second let's thank the  people that are watching let's thank the people  

that are listening um remind everybody to download  the podcast we're doing tonight from 931 wibc bam  

the future of conservation conservative talk radio  that's rob kendall welcome back as always rob  

thanks for having me and if anybody visits  the beginning of the show rob has uh  

is getting a full out of hair and uh we got  here and you already have a full head of  

air yeah you look dynamite rob thank you it's  called we got hair what we grow hairindy.com  

and the guy used to be an obgyn but now he  does hair and of course this show wouldn't  

be complete without writer provocateur saint  sinner lover husband father grandfather  

provocateur lawyer but of course dr america's  teacher benjamin jeremy stein welcome zoe sir  

god bless you sir god bless you and i am in  a very good mood and i'm going to say this  

it's nothing to do with a woman it has to do  with the greatest get out of jail i swear to  

you we have some big news that we're going to  be announcing thursday night that includes you  

um we'll on the show thursday night will be  rob benboychook and ken lacour from and we  

we are taking action on something and it's  very exciting so ben is always of the advice  

when you're going through it no matter what  just keep plugging away keep writing do as much  

as what as you can do to stay active in your  brain and something good will come from that  

and that's ben stein's advice and sir welcome  that's why you've uh you know you are who you  

are well god bless you sir god bless you sir god  literature and one of the things i really want to  

get into tonight i want to talk about tonight is  you growing up in an age of counter culture ben  

stein um wait wait wait wait wait wait wait the  first part of it of my growing up was the age  

of conformity and the silent generation and but  then after about 66 it became the rebel generation  

and i said it one time well from where i  was born in 1944 from 44 to about 66 we  

were the silent generation we were quiet silent  generation except for our rock and roll music  

but the then i think the beginning of everything  was the riots of colombia and that was when the  

counterculture really started maybe a little maybe  a year before that with the demonstrations of  

uc berkeley and the free speech movement there so  but one of the reasons i bring this up is because  

you know we the deplorables we the trumpicans  we the you know the we the we the people of the  

united states seem to now be the counter culture  we're the ones that's right that's right that's  

exactly and that's a brilliant observation thank  you and it's the craziest turn of events i have  

ever seen happen this quickly and if i was  there you wouldn't be eating that yogurt but

i'm um hungry i was i went to a restaurant tonight  that wasn't really my kind of restaurant and uh so  

i'm hungry i won't be eating it all the time there  you are and rob what are your thoughts on that as  

ben's eating no no no no no i want to back up your  point is an incredibly important point we now have  

a situation where what nixon called the great  silent majority is the counterculture and a few  

so-called intellectuals wheeler dealers people of  minority ethnic status have become the insiders  

and the top players and the rest of us are the  great silent majority and we are being beaten up  

and mocked and humiliated by the beautiful people  night and day and i got to say something it's  

like before i go to there's something extremely  freeing about who we are right now because we have  

nothing to lose we've been silenced we've been  slandered rob we've been called racist give us  

your best shot now what do you got for us what's  next in the lineup what are you gonna call us  

go ahead isn't the weirdest part of this though  the the the insanity from corporations and i  

mentioned this because like the all-star game  moving out of georgia to another place that has  

tougher voter id than georgia has and baseball  through back channels is now essentially putting  

it on these corporate sponsors who said they were  going to pull out and we're seeing this all over  

the place where these large corporations hate  republicans or hate conservatives to the point  

where they're willing just to not have their  business anymore i mean remember michael jordan  

republicans buy sneakers too it's like these  corporations are just willing to lose a huge  

swath of their customer base and they don't seem  to care i don't think that's it i think the people  

who run the corporation are cowardly chicken [  __ ] guys and gals who are scared of the media  

attacking them they're scared of black people  attacking them they're scared of jewish and  

so-called intellectuals attacking them uh it has  nothing to do with them losing their business  

they're just scaredy cats and they know nothing  about what they're supposed to be doing and i'm  

going to explain to you about this after  i just spin movie over as we take this a  

quick break i'm kidding go ahead it just is really  important but been in the case of moving the  

all-star game they took a hundred million dollars  out of a predominantly african-american community  

with in many cases predominantly owned  african-american businesses and they put it  

in a place that's like what 70 80 percent white i  mean it if you were i mean it just it doesn't make  

any sense if you're but it doesn't but it makes  sense to them 92 percent they're not very smart  

and when the media starts criticizing them  they turn tail and run they are chickens they  

they have no guts i mean these people are on these  corporations you think there's a oh here's joe  

schmeckel he runs the xyz gigantic corporation  he's must be tough and smart and inside well  

no no they work their way up the corporate  ladder they're bureaucrats they work their  

way up the corporate ladder and they're scared as  hell they're scared as hell being called racist  

they're scared as hell of being called bigots  they're scared as hell period and they do whatever  

is about the least resistance in terms of avoiding  being criticized i mean these are these are the  

cowardly lions and they do not understand  at all what a corporation is if they move  

do something which hurts their corporation and  loses customers for them it means the stockholders  

lose money the stockholders are not the ku klux  klan the stockholders are ordinary men and women  

who have saved up all their lives for their  retirement or to send their kids to college  

and their stockholders so stockholders are  most of their state most of their savings so  

the people who run the corporation should be  doing everything they can to make the stockholders  

more valuable not less valuable but they don't  care they're too scared of being called names  

they are betraying their trust this is really  important they are betraying their fiduciary duty  

the fiduciary duty of a corporate executive  is to put his or her stockholders interest  

ahead of his or her own that is absolutely basic  they're not doing it they do not understand what  

the law of fiduciary duty is i do understand i'm a  lawyer i'm an economist i do understand i've been  

testified about in dozens of lawsuits testimony  in front of congress and other state legislatures  

these guys have no understanding of corporations  are and yet they're running corporations  

it's really really disgusting rob i just i find  it fascinating and i guess you know ben's the  

economist so maybe maybe he could provide some  insight to it when do people stand up and go  

uh hello mr or miss ceo you're losing my life  savings woke this is fine until it cost me a  

whole bunch of money when does the when does the  pendulum shift and when when when do they begin  

regular people begin to fight back okay i've got  an answer for that my friend rob they a lawyer  

will come along maybe larry clayman uh maybe  somebody else and we'll sue these guys and we'll  

send them hundreds of pages of interrogatories and  we'll put them up for seven days of depositions  

and we'll start investigating them all and asking  them questions and making them feel awful and  

making them feel humiliated and exhausted and  some lawyer any lawyer can do that any lawyer  

worth assault can do or herself can do that and  they should the lawyers should be doing it this  

is a chance for lawyers to really come into their  own you know i mean ben i mean thank god we have  

thank god the world has you because you are able  to break this down really simple break it down

but rob you did you guys just got done in your  town with the with the final four i mean you  

guys did uh congratulations in indianapolis  you guys had a little bubble you built it up  

but um indiana is one of those states rob i got  to tell you you're a hop skip and a jump away  

from being banned well it's fascinating because  our governor is super liberal even though he has  

an r next to his name and is doing everything in  his power to govern as much like a democrat as he  

can and we'll get into his newest little escapade  i think a little later here in the show but you're  

right and the problem we've been talking about  this this week on the show we have republican  

super majorities in the house and senate we have  a republican governor all the statewides are  

republican and because the democrat party is so  inept and they feel no pressure from the democrats  

they're not fighting for liberty and freedom  anymore they're fighting amongst themselves for  

their own special interest bull crap and who can  embolden and embrace their special interest donors  

the most so you can't even get good government in  this case when you have all republicans it's scary  

it is scary and here it goes to another  crucial point which is the level of education  

especially moral education has collapsed people  are not taught to do right and when i was a child  

you're way way older than you when i was a child  we were taught that there was something good and  

enabling about doing right to other people it was  called the golden rule do it too unto others as  

you would have them do unto you these executives  of corporations who move this all-star game move  

all kinds of events and signings and entities out  of states because they consider them racist and  

hurt the stockholders they're not following the  golden rule they're not putting the stockholders  

energy ahead of their own they're putting their  own interests ahead of the stockholders it is a  

illegal and be morally repulsive and nobody is  holding into account but there are lawyers who  

will do it in the uh 80s and 90s i work a lot for  trial lawyers especially for a firm called milberg  

who uh sued endlessly against management  who are abusing their own stockholders  

i'm sorry to say one of the managements we sued  managers was donald trump and but unfortunately  

he had done something fairly scarce student loan  but he cleaned himself up and uh we've got to  

have lawyers like that who aren't afraid to go  into court sign up somebody for as i say for  

seven days of depositions file a hundred pages of  interrogatories put out all the boards of direct  

all the directions on the boards for a week of  entering uh interrogatories and uh and depositions  

see how see how much they talk back after  that and by the way just everybody knows like  

ben and mike ben and myself love larry clement  and um it's really important that people donate  

i know thank you mrs levin and it's really  important that people donate to freedomwatch  

usa.org because larry really does yeoman's  work um right now he he's grand jury he's  

doing a citizens grand jury on joe biden  and you could watch that every thursday it's  

actually pretty interesting watching this but  getting back to this ben and oma and rob i want  

it almost feels like and it doesn't almost  it feels like we're at this place where it's  

i mean i don't know what it was like with the  civil war but we're literally state versus state  

at this point yes that's really good that's really  good it's really good really good because the  

civil war was not a civil war it was not a war in  which the south tried to take over the government  

and run the whole country it just wanted to  be left alone now that being said slavery  

was so morally disgusting it's unbelievable it's  just incredible how morally disgusting it was but  

it was not a civil war between the states and we  are having something like a war between the states  

now yeah you're completely right and it's  it's it's if you're in a state right now  

that's borderline you have to be petrified because  what they're doing is essentially extortion rob  

it's blackmail i mean let's call it what  it is this is mob everything they accused  

by the mob is a media mob that you accuse  trump abroad they're doing you know whether  

from fascism to running like to running  something like the mob i have never seen  

what the extortion that they did  with major league baseball in my life

it is frightening how how frightened  

the corporate power structure of america americans  these guys are weaklings they're punks these guys  

who are taking their bowing down the black  lives matter they're punks black lives matter  

is not a serious organization it's a fundraising  entity to get money from guilty white liberals who  

have no understanding of what where the violence  in the black community is coming from it's just  

an extortion opportunity and these people running  the big corporations have no understanding of it  

at all none zero yeah i know i know you like him  but i'm just going to say there are a few of the  

preachers that must be looking at this right now  going man if this was only 30 years ago we'd have  

hundreds of millions in the account and not you  know you those shakedowns but on that note if  

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bam the future of conservative talk radio and  of course benjamin jeremy stein if it's always  

but as we're talking about this this shakedown and  i want to get back to the punk thing in a second  

and how we're the counter culture but i don't want  to miss rob's story that he told me ben today on  

the phone is frighteningly funny so two two things  first of all if i just real quick on this comment  

the topic we were just on the scariest part  to me that wasn't around during the civil war  

was a press that's invested in destroying people  and can reach a national audience like that  

look at desantis and this publix thing where 60  minutes just makes up a story alters the inter the  

information they don't care at all and it takes a  democrat mayor of a major city in florida to come  

out and completely rip this thing apart and go no  this governor didn't do this he's actually done a  

really good job that's scary as hell it's [ __  ] it's scary as hell but it's also encouraging  

and i want to say that i used to work for cbs  news as a commentator on sunday or sunday morning  

showing that people i work with are great people  and i think they could be taught and listen and  

learn and they could learn what's right or what's  wrong 60 minutes there's very much in my heart  

because they did a profile of me many years ago  and made me famous among my parents friends but  

overall the news media is just a disgrace to  humanity and what i see is when i turn on my tv  

if by some horrible mistake while flipping through  the channels i see al sharpton i think to myself  

this country is crazy if we give someone like al  sharpton one second of our attention our respect  

we're crazy we're literally crazy we should be put  in a straight jacket and thrown into a bad itself  

and so everybody has happened all over this  country just so everybody knows ben and ben  

ben and me have the house thank you mrs levin  have the al sharpton rule that if i'm ever in  

the same room and something might happen ben will  gladly bail me out of jail for the night so that  

is the al sharp mineral no violence of course just  a um a not fun room to be in at that point but rob  

i want to get back to your story because ben you  are going to be shocked when you hear this story

well this is talking about how the republicans  have completely given in to this this cancel  

culture woke bullcrap so last year indianapolis  like many major cities across the country got  

hit with riots it was the end of may 1st of june  there were two nights friday saturday back to back  

and it's now of course come out in large part that  the mayor joe hogg said democrat let it happen uh  

gave direction for the police not to stop them and  the governor who's a republican did very little  

at the time either to the point where these  rioters almost got the state capital and a  

couple days after the riots had happened this guy  named malik muhammad runs protest that goes from  

downtown indianapolis to the governor's mansion  which is up on the north side of indianapolis  

north meridian street i don't know i'm guessing  five or six miles so it takes this huge group of  

angry people and they march like not in cars  they walk for hours and it's on the internet this  

angry group of people days after our city's been  destroyed marching to the governor's mansion  

shouting horrific things about police horrific  things they want to do to police how they're going  

to storm the governor's mansion and god knows  what's going to happen then it's like something  

out of a movie and you're watching this at the  time in real time on the internet this group of  

i don't know maybe three four five hundred angry  people get to the governor's mansion and there's a  

standoff that lasts at least an hour maybe more  with state police and the indianapolis police  

department on whether these people are going  to riot the governors may storm the governor's  

mansion and they move forward the police push them  back they move forward the police push them back  

they're shouting their horrific things about the  police horrific things about uh just a whole bevy  

of people and again this guy malik muhammad  is leading this this whole thing well after  

about an hour malik bahama decides he's going  to be buddies with the cops and hugs this cop  

and they start marching together and he does  what they start marching together the police  

start marching with these protesters away from the  capitol and i'm watching this in real time on the  

internet and i told my girlfriend at the time  i said i said this is a terrible idea because  

that guy's a super bad actor and is completely  disingenuous in what he's doing and these police  

have just legitimized and emboldened a guy  that six minutes ago was enraging a group of  

people shouting death the cops f cops you know  threatening to kill people etcetera etcetera  

that happens and everybody oh this guy  is a hero this malik mohammed he's this  

this great guy of course that's how the media  paints it day or two later this malik muhammad guy  

ends up in a one-on-one meeting with  the governor at the governor's mansion  

now there's like one other person in the  first lady are there and the governor is  

doing a photo op with this guy they're  shaking hands they're meeting together  

i'm watching it this is the time going this guy  and the people with him were saying horrific  

things about cops things they wanted to do to cops  he threatened to storm the governor's mansion that  

has to be a felony of some sort right and now  you're meeting with this guy and emboldening him  

well fast forward to yesterday and malik  muhammad the same guy who led that protest who  

was threatening to storm the governor's mansion  whose group of people was saying they wanted to  

kill cops do horrific things to cops it turns  out he's not now been charged with the tempted  

murder related to trying to kill police officers  in portland in september and october of last year  

so that was in june that means the governor  met with this guy legitimized him and within  

four the republican governor of our state and  within four months he's in portland doing this

incredible terrifying and show that shows the  incredible terror that white people in america  

have of black people i mean that let's call let's  let's tell the truth this wouldn't be i thought  

you were going to say something else but go ahead  this would not be happening if mr malik mohammed  

or white it's happening because white people  in this country are terrified of black people  

and yet black people are they're not creatures  from outer space they're not monsters they're  

just people and for some reason the elected  officials of this country are terrified of them  

and they only represent 13 of the electorate  they're far smaller part of the electorate  

than hispanic americans nobody's kissing up  to hispanic americans what's going on here  

but ben ben you raise a greater point you  know and you're from the time i mean this  

is the problem with the university systems right  the university systems have romanticized trotsky  

they've romanticized even mass murderers they've  romanticized killers they've you know the weather  

on their ground is somehow a beacon of some sort  of you know and then so getting back to it like  

the black panthers people like to look at the  black panthers and now romanticize this group  

that was murderous ambushed police officers were  were murderers lot and this is who blm and all  

these things all these people have spawned from  is really frightening this revision is history  

i mean i got to tell you it's it's very look i  look i know all about this i'm an old guy judah  

i worked with the black panther party in new haven  connecticut where they were founded my wife did  

too she's a saint a living breathing goddess saint  we worked with them we thought they were great  

people they told us they had a free breakfast  program and they would give them give money and  

give food if we gave them money to give food to  poor impoverished black children so they could  

have a hearty breakfast before they went off to  school we ran something called the yale law school  

film society we showed great movies we brought  in famous directors we raised a lot of money  

gave it to them what was apparently nobody didn't  go to buy food when to buy weapons and by drugs  

so everything was turned upside down and that and  yet somehow the black panthers are the heroes now  

what happened yes we were stupid no doubt about it  we were stupid but we have to keep on being stupid  

forever so here's what rob brought up something  really interesting and i i glossed over he brought  

up desantis doing the 60 minutes interview  um we know trump made some you know mistakes  

going on these shows why when will republicans  realize no matter how good you look in a suit  

no matter how well prepared you're going to be  it's going to be a hit piece and there's no point  

in going there there's just win loss even though  there's a mayor that's come out and defended rob  

this ron desantis he it's it's it's now in the  media they you can't fight this back then why  

do it in the first place it makes no sense yeah  but the media would go after him and accuse him  

of things anyway and by the way mr desantis  is obviously setting himself up and rightly so  

to be the next president of the united states but  he's not afraid he should probably probably should  

be afraid but maybe it is possible that there  will be some kind of revolution not a violent  

revolution nobody wants a violent revolution but  a revolution in which people say we are sick of  

being lied to pushed around humiliated spat on  by the media by the black lives matter movement  

we're sick of this i when are we going to have  some person of distinction besides hannah is great  

to say black lives matter is a complete  fraud when is somebody in power going to  

say that will biden ever say of course not of  course not will kamala harris say of course not  

when will some important republicans say it  i don't know maybe never but when will mitch  

mcconnell say it and that's the part of the  problem is the narrative with the black lives  

matter thing because it their their their charter  is anti-semitic their charter is anti the family  

their charter is is is is is it could have been  written by by the it could it's the same pamphlet  

striker yeah but it's like plo you know 101. it  probably was written by someone connected with the  

plo i mean rob this is absolutely that story you  brought up rob is absolutely frightening but it's  

your state i mean when's this governor's time up  well he just got reelected because the republicans  

in this state are phenomenal at convincing other  republicans that if you dare would vote because  

look the the libertarian great rainwater uh got  340 000 votes it was like 11.7 percent of the vote  

uh all from people who were mad at the governor  they were almost all republican who had walked  

away from the republican party but the republican  party here the establishment big government  

republicans in which holcomb is you know the head  of the snake is great at convincing these other  

republicans well you could throw your vote away  on a libertarian but then you might get a democrat  

in here and well we know we suck but you don't  want an abortion factor on every corner do you  

they're great at using and abusing conservatives  because they know the trigger words and the  

trigger phrases to get them to do their bidding  with that even though they don't like them it's  

crazy ben he raises a great point and this  is what's happened in in with really you know  

to the republican party and rems is not here  tonight and he's brought up this issue before  

uh remsa is on the run but he will be here  saturday night but remembers brought up this  

great point about these two senators these two  hacks and from georgia we all know they they  

didn't not lose um but loffler and purdue are  just terrible candidates and they're those type  

of candidates like that rob said they abused  the republican the constitu the constituents  

they they threw out certain key words and just  so you'll get their vote and it came back to  

sort of bite them in the ass because they  sort of lost ben and rob really raised an  

exceptional point how how um republicans are  brought to fear by republicans that are running  

where i don't know if it's republicans or brought  to fear by republicans but we're certainly in a  

state of fear i mean i'm glad you brought that up  you and i have talked a lot and i've written a lot  

about how the guy the biden administration  should be called the ministry of fear  

because what we're being told is be afraid  be very afraid if you don't count down to  

black lives matter if you don't count out the most  violent segments of the african-american community  

you better be afraid because either we're going  to kill you or we're going to call you a racist  

and cost you your job and your family and your  friends yeah yeah that we are we are living in  

a state of fear we live and the government is  not the white house the government is is not  

the big networks the government is the ministry of  fear can i can i come back to this malik muhammad  

story here for a second as long as you want  a great story so there's two really important  

things because i start asking the question look  i despise governor eric holcomb but i don't want  

anything bad to happen to my governor whether  it's democrat republican whatever we never want  

something violent or bad to happen to our governor  and having interviewed governors before i work for  

the state of indiana under mike pence i know how  hard it is to get a meeting with the governor  

there's a huge part of me and ben you know this  you've worked with with and four heads of state  

how hell does this guy who you clearly know what  he is get a one-on-one meeting and brought it  

ben said at the best part because the governor  and everybody else are terrified of the blacks  

and anything the blacks want they get because  we're terrified and we've lost not you and me  

or you and i but uh the governors the power  brokers are terrified of the bucks the blacks  

the blacks wanted to be treated the same as  everybody else and have same legal rights their  

minerals now we have a totally different situation  where their their their preferences and their uh  

power is wildly on a per capita exchange  basis exceeds their numbers you guys both  

raise great great points and i want to get  back to this quickly afterwards because it's  

what i started the show with about being free  if you just tuned in you are listening to the  

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joined tonight by rob kendall who's got more hair  every every time you see him um from 931 w ibc  

i i just can't get over the fact that you're  a guy that does your hair was an ob gyn  

um great isn't it it's yeah that's great it's  working so so he's chatting with me so can i  

tell the story real fast it's it's an incredible  story so you walk in there for you know it's not a  

super major surgery but they're cutting your head  open so you know it's kind of a big deal right and  

the guy walks in and he goes uh he knows what i do  obviously and he knows this is an advertising deal  

for the radio station and he comes in and he goes  up hey you guys man i i'm excited to do this today  

because i don't get to talk politics with many  people but i know i can talk it with you and so he  

sits there for 20 minutes and starts going off on  politics and it's like shouldn't you be focused on  

you know cutting my head open shouldn't you just  so you know that happens with any time i've had  

that experience ben's had that experience any time  we go somewhere or somebody and we're in there's a  

private ben has a i don't want to say with doctor  but he's he's very old and ben is his favorite  

patient he's i mean really old and because he  closes the door he closes the door and he starts  

talking politics and it's like this reprieve for  him and and it's it's it's absolutely maddening  

but i want to get back to this counter culture  thing because it then it goes to what you're  

saying it goes to what rob's saying at a certain  point conservatives have to realize there's  

a freedom in just for races we're deplorables  we're the worst of the worst you know what let's  

let's build from there you you've thrown at  us your best your best shot and what worst  

things could we be called and be free stop  cow towing to people because it doesn't work  

all that stuff and if they just take that lesson  of the sentence of a trump and say screw you  

i'm a racist whatever you want me to be you're  going to call me why can't they be free do they  

have been you you're what is it what is  it i told you to be support it's fear  

no no no but what i'm saying is what's the worst  that could happen well i'll tell you what they're  

afraid of is that some black person's going to  kill them that's what they're afraid of what  

they're afraid of after that is that the black  people will form a block with the uh liberals  

and the dopey housewives and gender fluid people  and also don't be house husbands and uh and we'll  

vote them out of office they're scared i mean  they're scared to death they're there they are  

afraid it's the whole government is now the minute  the whole country is now the ministry of fear

by the way i've lost my audio i want to bring up  something else that's that people that is getting  

really glossed over and it goes into this is that  california the geniuses they are uh basically  

said if you claim to be transgender you can go to  when you're a male you could go to a female prison  

and 250 people if you're a male prisoner and you  say you're transgender you identify as transgender  

you can be brought to a female prisoner so as of  today they have 255 petitions on their desk from  

prisoners and i can only imagine that number is  i mean why wouldn't the whole male population  

now at this point been transgender and end up in  a female prison well they would they probably will  

i mean these people i think what we've seen about  these people is that we don't like them very much  

but they're not stupid they are maximizing their  utility and their utility is much greater by being  

in a female prison because they're less likely  to get killed and they were likely to have sex

so they're maximizing their utilities  is it my turn yeah you go for a rob

so and ben you can speak to this because you spent  so many years around these people and this has  

always floored me the need to be liked isn't that  a big part of it like when i was elected and then  

when i worked in politics i've got enough friends  like i didn't like hardly any of the people i was  

around there and i wouldn't have ever wanted to  be friends with them but it's like these people  

need to be liked by these people that they're  around and that's really weird to me i think  

it's well i think it's more basic than that my  friend yes we all want to be liked everybody  

wants to be liked but they're i think they are  physically afraid i think they're they're afraid  

they saw these riots last summer they saw black  people throwing things at the police they saw  

black people setting things on fire and they  thought i don't want to be i don't want to  

have somebody throw a coke bottle in my head and  kill me i know i have somebody set my house on  

fire and kill me they're scared they're scared we  haven't we have an america where the ruling class  

is running scared yeah i mean you're you're  you're completely right we're we're but i want  

to get back to this thing sort of been where we  touched upon with the civil with the civil war  

and i look at states like it's it's there  there's a limited number of states that you  

know that democrats are going to constantly be  throwing business towards at this point right so  

you have states that aren't going to accept  the trans laws you have states that are  

are going to go harder on voter id and  registration so basically all these states  

right now that are passing these laws have  to have the fear of god in them of losing  

of losing capital and like i said that's extortion  that's it it's on the biggest scale i've ever seen  

what what is your suggestion to these states  because you brought up lawsuits before can't  

georgia if they were normal file a lawsuit against  major league baseball for 100 million dollars  

well why can't they fight what i would say rather  than that if i may effectively say this it says  

the state of georgia has huge gigantic pension  funds for the employees of the state of georgia  

why don't they sue these corporations for breach  of fiduciary duty through the management age  

corporation for breach of fiduciary duty we're  not maximizing the value of their shareholders  

shareholdings by countdowing instead of black  lives matters why why can't they sue over that  

no i mean i i i just i it's like we we all  woke up in a place that we don't recognize  

and it's actually it's absolutely a frightening  thing but again i get back to spend there i  

wish republicans and everybody that's  listening thinks the same thing we look  

at the mitch mcconnells and these jackasses there  and we and we've been and it's it's almost like  

if you if you've been a fan of a terrible  sports team and the general manager just  

stays there for 15 or 20 years knowing that the  team is so so and right now i got to tell you ben  

the conservative party the republican party is at  best so so and our general manager mitch mcconnell  

he's getting to them it's getting to the point ben  they have to do something we have to do something  

because he doesn't represent the people no he  doesn't represent the republicans i know in north  

idaho or even or even in uh south carolina or even  in uh southern california uh i i like mr mcconnell  

i i think he's done very good work in many many  areas and i actually like him but i think we need  

somebody a little more rough and ready to take the  fight to the enemy and to explain what's going on  

here and to explain that the heads of coca-cola  the heads of delta the heads of whatever other  

corporations got on the case of the uh about  the baseball game that those people can be sued  

and i want to tell you something i've been  sued and i've been part of a lot of lawsuits  

it is really torture to be put in depositions week  after week is really torture to have hundreds of  

pages of interrogatories to fill out why  those are weapons we have so my questions  

so my question to you and i think everybody  wonders this is you have a senate right now  

there are 50 republican senators why can't  you know to quote brokeback mountain why  

can't they why can't they quit mitch at  a certain point there are some senators

yeah but ted cruz people like ted cruz rand  paul holly cotton there's enough of them  

rob at this point that they could  actually can't they put a vote up

unless they got somebody who was like a trump-like  figure who's willing to go out and fight i mean  

how many people do we have in the republican  party who are really willing to go out and fight  

maybe four or five right what what's the old  say what's the old saying if you come for  

the king you better not miss or something  like that yeah right right right right and  

if i could put a little spin on this  i interviewed a guy yesterday he's a  

state rep here in indiana who's you know billy  badass johnny tough guy on social media about  

how much the republic he's a republican but how  much other republicans they've let us down on  

this and that we're not reigning the governor in  and we didn't pass constitutional care etc etc so  

i had him on for another topic yesterday and he's  talking about all these things but then he talks  

about what a great job this guy named todd houston  who's our speaker of the house is doing and i told  

the guy i said wait a second how can you in one  hand say the republican party sucks on all these  

things but all the speaker of the house is doing a  great job when he is in charge of the republicans  

in the house of representatives and of course he  won't answer that question because the answer to  

that is he doesn't want to lose his power and  he's not gutsy enough to come with the king  

nobody's no they're not very many people who  are god's sake there's got to be a little knot  

of people back up afc this woman from new york and  her pals a tiny little number of people but full  

of energy and fearless have changed the character  of the democrat party we need people like them in  

the republican party full of guts and fearless and  not afraid of anything to change the character of  

the republican party i got to tell you there are  quite a few of them in the house for their appear  

to be have i think stefanik you have jim jordan  you had matt gates i don't know where we stand  

with him at this point but um in the senate then  that's where we run into a major issue because  

yes mitch mcconnell has done certain things but  you know when he did it with the merrick garland  

thing and he's done a few other things but at this  point then we need new leadership i don't i mean  

and and you love tom cotton you love holly we've  spoken about rand paul and this and and these  

people there are people that are in that we have  at what point does mitch mcconnell and i know it's  

all about power with him and he's in the peter  schweitzer book with him and his wife how much  

money they've made from china at what point do  the does the senate say we're voting you out mitch  

you could stay stay as long as you want  you and mitt romney could have fun together  

but we're done with you at this point and there  comes a certain point where these republicans  

because if they don't do the spend they will  lose voters but they won't do it because  

and you're you're about the long game in the  short game and in the short game everything's  

about being friends with mitch and he's got  a lot of power and babies to dispense why  

fight with him unless you are really really revved  up like aoc and the squad and they're about they  

are the model we should be learning from all right  and i have a question i have a question for you  

because you know how all these congress people act  how many of them actually are deviants and weirdos  

you mentioned matt gates how many of them are  i bet most of them i don't know we don't know  

that he's a deviant he's accused of being that  he's accused of being that i know exactly what  

we assume but he's asking them what he's asking  is the sordid secrets how how well but everybody  

has sorted secrets i mean there's nobody in some  sort of secret sphere the human being is conceived  

in a sin and as a sword and be in being by the way  in in uh matt gates defense people don't know this  

because this wasn't wildly reported um there was  uh the washington examiner actually had a piece  

today where they pretty much posted um where  they where they have the document from the from

to get 25 million dollars from him and the guy  that's from this firm i believe he did 10 years in  

prison that wrote this form so matt gates listen  loves women i'm not gonna until until there's  

evidence to the otherwise he's still a congressman  but one thing we know for sure at this point  

almost is that it was a shakedown and and and they  were trying to extort his family out of 25 million  

dollars so we almost have absolute definitive  proof of that and i think it's very important  

to share that and if you just tuned in you are  listening to the world according to ben stein  

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back to the world according to ben stein we are  minus ben for a second but we're with rob kendall  

i want to ask you i mean you constantly bring  up this indiana thing and i imagine like  

it's like a smaller mansion in indiana where the  governor lives yeah like the size of the mansion  

gets to go by the size of the constituency and i  sort of see indiana being like a smaller mansion  

sort of like a like a like like a brownstone yeah  it's it's a nice house with a garage and a gated  

lawn i mean you know it's it's multi-story it's  uh you know it's well constructed but but here so  

here's what's interesting about all this and  one of the reasons that to come back to this  

this malik muhammad thing is so crazy is because  about a month before the riots a group probably  

i don't know 500 people gathered on the governor's  law now when i say governor's law and it's outside  

the gated area at all legal they were within  compliance and they held a protest saying we  

want our jobs we want our businesses reopened  they didn't want anything special this was  

open lockdowns had started he comes out the monday  after that or whatever was wednesday after that in  

his in his weekly press conference and they asked  him about it and he called the people judy you'll  

love this a human petri dish that's what he called  the people who peacefully protested the point  

they picked up all their trash when they left so  he calls those people and won't meet with any of  

them for over a year now a human petri dish but he  meets with this malik muhammad guy who now we know  

is accused of attempting to kill cops in  portland and at the time of the very least  

let an angry very large group of people who said  they were ready to storm the governor's mansion  

what the hell is going on here i also love that  this is like because you're right this is this  

is a huge story it should be recorded all over  sadly i mean it's it's you know it's in a tiny  

little state like uh where you are but it should  be getting recorded it's not getting reported  

um and it's it's it's it it's it's terrifying i i  the capitulation that's going on and that's why i  

brought up this thing about us sort of being the  new punk the new the the new because there's a  

freedom right now that we could say whatever  we want you do a radio show six days a week  

you're essentially given pretty much where you  could say whatever you want and it really bothers  

me and if all those people in the chat that more  people don't realize they have the ability right  

now to scream they could say whatever they want  what's the worst case scenario is you're called  

a racist and i guess this is very hard for our  generation you're a little younger than me to  

understand is this need to be liked do this need  to be loved it's such a it's such a foreign thing  

for us to think about like wouldn't you rather be  respected you know it's like that bronx tale type  

thing isn't it better be respected or feared than  it is to be to have that well that's the thing  

right sorry i think ben's coming back but uh yeah  coming back and i was trying to tell you that just  

hearing a name how sharpton i'm seeing an  image made me sick sorry are you all right  

i'm all right but please don't  ever mention that name again  

you brought him up by the way just for that  i know it was my fault and please don't bring  

up the name malik mohammed and uh ben you were  missed in the time gone but ben richard nixon  

he didn't he didn't need to be i mean i'm sure  he would have wanted to be loved but he didn't  

need it he he had an agenda he set forth he set  forth with it he took a bunch of abuse more abuse

no one else would ever have  to take ever in history  

other than trump maybe um i think even more

why can't more republicans learn from the nixons  from the trumps why the people that actually got  

the prize well nathan was a remarkable man  and judah judah judah judah judah nixon was  

a remarkable man mark it's just no no no nixon  was a remarkable human being i just today this  

afternoon had the incredible pleasure of going  out to mount vernon where george washington lived  

i'm not saying nixon was george washington  clearly he wasn't but he was a man who was  

fearless in terms of doing what was right and  he did what was right and he changed the whole  

world even though he was hated and abused he  saved eretz israel saved him there would be no  

israel without nixon yet the jews kicked him  in the teeth over and over and over again  

he made more progress on civil rights than any  other republican president ever has black people  

kicked him in the cheeks over and over and over  again he did what was right he was not afraid to  

do what was right even if it got even if he got  in trouble we need more like him there aren't  

many and that's and that's really the maddening  thing i mean that's what it's like we could keep  

beating ourselves up that's the maddening thing  i really do want to look into for the next show  

of what this what the senate rules are because we  do have it in the house we have a strong house rob  

i think we have a fairly strong they're fairly  young they're fairly we have a good house going  

the problem is is in the senate right now is  is we have republican leadership and that is  

you know frightening you have mid you know you  have the mitt romney you were doing so well and  

not saying you know it was unbelievable i know  but you got up and it threw me off so yeah sorry  

the lesson for not saying you know is not to get  is not together just felt sick sorry it's okay we  

we've all been there you know me more than most um  but i want to get back to this really quickly um  

somebody keeps on asking me about something with  uh hyperinflation how come i never get to see  

the chat by the way well because you're not in uh  youtube and i guess somebody out there has a very  

very big fear of us hitting hyperinflation or  taxation the cause of inflation from taxation  

i don't know i'm not an accountant i think  that that concept uh if if this gentleman or  

gentlewoman has that concept he or she has it to  himself or herself okay well there you are i might  

have asked the question incorrectly but you seem  to have asked it in the chat quite a few times i  

could just be a terrible reader but i want to get  back to this um how the counter culture thing been  

because you're in washington right now uh rob's  in indiana obviously i'm in california right now  

when you know in the 80s in the 80s by accident  we had a fantastic counter culture in a weird  

way with written with uh you know reagan and greed  and and it's sort of like this romanticism of of  

of a different time it was it was the 80s were a  lot of fun i got to tell you you know as growing  

up in the 80s ben but we as a republican  well you know i'm just uh i said it again

let me just tell you them the 80s were a lot of  fun the sixers were a lot of fun saturdays were a  

lot of fun except except for the killing of nixon  that was not fun at all but uh we used to have  

better moral characters running this country than  we have now we think of the moral character of  

the people we have running this country now they  bowed down to rioters and democrats and killers  

i think rob's story is incredibly unbelievably  important it's an unbelievably important story  

we've got to remember that story the politicians  of this country are such cowards it's unbelievable  

and so stupid it's unbelievable and we follow them  you know you brought up a great point right now  

without even realizing it and um  both of you did it was fun it was fun  

it was fun are people actually enjoying  themselves right now you know are these  

people on the left right now enjoying themselves  does this i mean they look miserable they they  

have everything they could have maybe it's like  they got everything they wanted and they're still  

miserable and i i it shows don't  don't you know you get what you want  

and you're still miserable because if you're not  fit inside and you're we all know they're mentally  

a little unstable then but they have everything  they want and they're miserable they're angry  

you can't always get what you want but if you  try sometime you just might find you get what  

you need let me ask you a question rob have you  ever met somebody on the left that's actually  

overjoyed right now that you walk around with you  know that shares these viewpoints that you know  

that loves blm that all this stuff is actually  right that's funny that's funny i do actually have  

some relatives who respect blm and that i find  so unbelievable i can't even start to describe it  

we we talk about this on the air quite a bit and  i've come to the conclusion that you can't really  

be happy because that that monster of hardcore  leftism socialism communism whatever you want  

to call it it's like a black hole it just keeps  eating itself and it has to always get bigger  

and bigger and bigger and find new people to  hate because hate in many facets is what fuels  

it's very creative hate is what they eat  hate is their diet that is excellent in 1984  

when people are bored the government would have a  two-minute hate hate hate hate hate and hate then  

that show makes your big brother and people would  be calm and they'd hold up their hands like this  

eight eight yes that's what black  lives matter is selling us eight

and you spoke about an industry before that's the  industry that really is the industry and somebody  

brought up in chat they're so miserable  they want to make everybody else miserable  

and it's been it's really this frightening  thing that um that people don't want  

other people to have joy i mean people don't want  people to to to ex there is no experience in life  

anymore we're gonna have a lot of and i brought  this up on with somebody else we're going to  

have a lot of unhappy women and we've spoken  about this on the show before because people  

aren't dating as much they aren't interacting as  much we are going to have a generation of lost  

in space or lost in something i got to tell you  it's very frightening people try to put us down  

just because we get around  things they do sound awful  

guys something hope i die before i get  awful cold hope i die before i get old  

sir we're gonna have to be the happy warriors  and we're gonna have to be the happy warriors  

it's up to us um yes we are and i want to remind  everybody we have really big announcement because  

and and i can't say this enough the biggest thing  that people ask us about a solution we are working  

as a team on on a solution that we think is going  to have a great impact on something rob's going  

to be a part of it ben's going to be a part of  it ken mccourt from media action network we're  

hoping ben boychik joins on board and we're we're  actually and we're going to be discussing it this  

thursday night because it is about solution and we  shouldn't have to live like this and i got to tell  

you it's it's the reason i'm i'm in a good mood  is because i'm thinking about this but it's also  

i'd like to i would the one thing ben i miss about  trump more than anything is him trolling them back  

i miss that i miss them not getting away with  stuff i missed that that that that that he was  

our greatest troll and um we we we miss him  greatly i know robbie was his close friend  

and um and on that note but i want to thank  everybody i know ben's getting tired i know uh  

i'm very very very tired i'm tired of having  to be in a country where people take black  

lives matter seriously i'm tired of that  so why so so we should change the name to

to something else so you don't get upset  we'll change al sharpton's name we'll  

change the name of black lives matter so they  put you in a better mood we'll call it a blt  

um and uh and sharpie and on that note i want  to thank everybody that's been listening in chat  

you've been great um uh we really appreciate  everything um ben's in washington dc now  

it's it's rather late there and you really you  have the vigor of dillinger and um i i i truly  

commend you for that um i want to remind everybody  to download the podcast on apple wherever you're  

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