The World According To Ben Stein

Woke Culture Is Killing America!

Episode Summary

Woke culture is killing America. Kids are being indoctrinated in schools and through all forms of media at home. Adults are relinquishing their parental obligations and staying silent. And if this wasn’t frightening enough, critical race theory has now infiltrated the already-corrupted agencies responsible for protecting us. We are witnessing government-controlled subversion, and yes, your humble servant is scared.

Episode Transcription

i'm ready sure you know at fox news one time  we had a uh a real case of sexual harassment  

where the guy who ran the fox news live  division was telling girls that if they  

slept with them we get them on as as guests and  i'm like back then it was a stream thing with  

48 viewers i'm like that's like sleeping  your way onto youtube how does that happen

nate how are you hey guys how are you good how  are you young man great yeah it's good to see  

you guys too ken it's nice to meet you and that is  a wonderful story uh ken lacourt and on that note  

i want to welcome everybody to the world according  to batman benjamin jeremy stein want to welcome  

everybody listening and watching in the youtube  channel i want to remind everybody uh we are on  

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ben stein and get your butts back to parlor um  we're joined tonight by from the young voices of  

america welcome back nate hochman good to be here  am i saying it right is it hachman or ha ha ha ha  

yeah okay um well welcome back um and of course  from the media action network media maverick ken  

iron man the court welcome back ken only time i've  ever been called that thank you that's uh i'm sure  

that's the only time most people have been called  that and of course this show wouldn't be complete  

without writer active provocateur economist  awesome i'm just going to ignore everything

man of the people humble servant but of course  doctor benjamin jeremy stein welcomes always here  

um it's good to see everybody  in the chat it's good  

sorry not that i was talking to nate  it's okay i forgot to clap it's like uh  

stalin killing the last the first person who  sits down after clapping that was me i um i i i

nothing i a good stallion reference um i want to  you know this morning ben and i ben and myself  

ben and i were speaking yeah i know i know mrs  love and ben and i were speaking this morning  

and um he had to know you already texted  me really early in the morning about um  

culture killing are you gonna keep interrupting  me yeah you know when he interrupts you his audio  

isn't working it should i about woke culture  um killing america and how scared he was of  

it and i obviously obviously i share the same  sentiments ben stein but then i had texted back  

what's scaring me more is the is the agencies the  already corrupted agencies being out of control  

and ben brought up the brilliant point  that it's the woe culture that is infested  

the corrupt already corrupt agencies  ben stein well i was awakened by someone  

uh whose name i don't know sending me a  clip from fox news uh about a recruiting  

video for the cia which featured a very good  sized african-american freedom fighter woman  

who said if this isn't a faith this could have  been a faith i am it says something like this i  

am a sixth generation paranoid schizophrenic  proud african-american freedom fighter  

and uh but this did not hold me back from joining  up with the cia and doing incredibly great work  

with other paranoid schizophrenics of color and  that will not the cia will not open against you  

if you are a paranoid schizophrenic or god  i don't claim that these are exact quotes

latina she's a latina woman and it was generalized  okay just with a record i just wanted just for the  

record had this video come out whenever it would  have been a fake called a fake it would have  

it wasn't a fake it was right and that's why i  hate youtube you could please read the transcript  

from it yeah look she um ben was close to it  she was a she was blind she said i'm a woman of  

color she was hispanic a cisgender millennial i've  been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder  

i'm intersectional and i'm pulling pieces together  i used to struggle with imposter syndrome but at  

36 i refused to internalize misguided patriarchal  ideas of what a woman can or should be and  

then as she went through and checked off every  intersectional box she then explained and had and  

literally you were seeing her getting an award for  being diverse she was explaining how she didn't  

get that job because she checked off boxes and  was diverse she earned it all on her own it was  

the craziest thing look we've seen i'm just gonna  run with this for one second we've seen the woke  

culture age its way through through uh through our  industries uh um do any of you remember gamergate  

what is it um nate's the only one who might might  have i remember i i i i generational thing i think  

it's a generational thing this was about six years  ago guys and and um and it was a it was about it  

was the comic book and and um uh the comic book  world and and uh video games and one guy slept  

with the reviewer or vice versa it was something  like that and it went through this process  

where where for the first time a generation of  young people saw the internet wipe something out  

of existence i mean they they took things off of  reddit they took things off of 4chan which is like  

taking it's like taking smell out of poop it was  a crazy crazy thing and then what we saw we saw it  

first so it first hit the the the industries  where where the people were the youngest  

you know comic books and and and and video games  then what does it hit next well it hits it hits  

silicon valley because you go into you know you go  into twitter or reddit headquarters there aren't  

a whole lot of 30 year olds in there so they  were the second to come woke and whatnot and now  

it's coming up to the cia as these these college  students became older and running things and they  

take over the hr's and companies you're seeing  it get into the real companies like this ben  

he actually brings up an amazing point how house  how those people that were college students then  

are now in position higher positions of higher  power to literally dismantle our country but  

what i don't understand i would like to go back  to this i hope we can move my forward and back  

backward on this chessboard what was the  point of this recruiting question was to say  

if you're a person of color we'd like to have you  if you've got mental illness we'd love to have you  

if you complain a lot we'd like to have you if you  complain a lot and you're joining a lot of other  

people complaining a lot we'd like to have you  nothing about intelligence nothing about ability  

to spot anything important to the cias and spot  no mention whatsoever of any qualifications one  

would think you need to have to be a spy so what  what were they talking about well it's just it's  

class-based signaling right i mean the wokeness is  the language of the ruling class and this is them  

signaling to one another that they're virtuous  um i'm writing a piece about this right now for  

i think for the american mind using the cia uh uh  recruiting video as a jumping off point because  

it's such a stark sort of absurd uh uh image in  that like you know these people were operating  

black sites and water bordering prisoners for  the in in afghanistan for the first decade of  

the 21st century and now they're talking about  their commitment to social justice right which  

is sort of facially absurd and anyone who has  any self-awareness can tell that it's absurd um  

but thinking about it rationally doesn't  really work right because it's like  

these it is irrational for the cia to be  posting videos uh like this but the people  

well the people who the people who run the cia in  the the military bureaucracy to a certain extent  

went to the same elite universities as the people  in the rest of the civil servant that's right  

but is it irrational i mean i hate to even posit  this argument but they love to recruit from the  

top universities they'd love to recruit from yale  so if you're going to go out there and say hey  

you know what um you know we might use a rubber  hose on some muslim with a bomb strap to them you  

probably don't get all that many people from the  skull and bone society applying good point yeah  

crazy schools you got to be crazy yeah that's a  good point well i mean i say okay so have they  

given up have they explicitly given up getting  the smartest and most agile invested languages  

what kind of people are they  looking for who do they want  

well i think to ken's point this is a strategy  whether or not you think the people who are in  

our sort of elite credentialing institutions are  the smartest people anymore is an open question  

but it is this is the way to signal to the people  at harvard and yale that the cia is now a woke  

and inclusive uh place that prioritizes equity and  diversity and inclusion as its sort of preeminent  

value which is which are the governing values  of the ruling class in america today full stop  

do you think do you think that the top dogs at  the cia really wants this woman working for them

i think you ask a good you ask a good question  because you're going under the assumption there's  

no assumption to be had we all know the top dogs  at the cia and the fbi and almost all the other  

bureaus are corrupt jackasses so this idea  and what nate said and what ken said of what  

they were talking about sort of with gamergate is  these are the leaders now these are the people in  

control at these certain organizations and that's  really a frightening thing you know you if you  

if you take over the hr department that's the way  to take over a company i saw it happen at fox when  

i right when i got blown out at fox they brought  in a kindler gentler hr department and they have  

like quizzes on on gay rights days and they have  equity councils and they have all sorts of things  

if you want to change the culture of it that's  that's the easiest wedge and liberals know that  

may i ask this question do you mean to tell me  that the cia has completely given up on doing  

an effective job at espionage yes a hundred  percent i believe they'll do espionage they'll  

do espionage uh for the sort of woke regime and  that they're perfectly happy to go after people

it means today they're spending 96 million  dollars what was it 96 billion or bill  

million or billion dollars billion because  millions is nothing on uh domestic terrorism  

so basically yeah it was by law and not allowed  to do that one of the bureaus my point being is  

they're not this idea that they that  they're doing what we thought they would do  

remember ben these are bureaucrats at bureaucrats  that don't give a damn about this country  

well let me back up and say several things as  quickly as i can one my dear old father who has  

entered immortality some 22 years ago went to  college he was close friends with richard helms  

who was one of the earliest heads of the cia and  he was a terribly terribly smart guy uh he told me  

something about the cia about himself and it was  explained the whole cia to me in one quick lunch  

he told me that after he graduated from williams  college the best small college in america  

he uh went to work for time magazine and time  magazine sent him to interview adolf hitler and  

this was like 1936 and i said did hitler  give off the vibe of being totally insane  

even then and mr holmes said oh no he wasn't  insane at all and i said really he killed six  

million jewish civilians men women and children  many more millions of russians polls yugoslav  

and you don't think he was insane and  he said no just a very clever politician  

so uh with that kind of mindset as the at the  head of the say this was a very very long time ago  

i wondered how effective this area could  be second thing is i was telling you  

a close friend very very close friend  that i applied for a summer job at the cia  

probably 1964 or five and the first question  they asked me first of all they looked at me  

and they i get just registered in their eyes  like a cash register lighting i'm jubilate  

and like they said to me have you ever slept in  bed with a man and i said no but my older cousins  

used to read me bedtime stories when i was a small  child oh they said well you don't do that anymore  

no okay so this told me what to say i was like  then but at least i thought they were they were  

uh bigoted and uh foolish but fairly smart but  uh i guess they're not that anymore either you  

know you you but you're the one that always says  that some of the stupidest people are the generals  

um you know we we have this thought as and  you you've been telling me this that you know  

you always refer to nixon they're not fit to  be dog catchers but mostly i understand but  

they're all the same then it's six of one i mean  it's it's they never get fired they just we what  

we've learned and what we see is they just go  from one position to the next it whether it's  

from congress to senate from general to this to  this they're all in this thing can where they  

never get fired swamp but but who's going to  fire them judah who's going to fire them well

obviously at this point nobody's getting fired  because uh with this regime um there is going  

to be no firing of these uh but what are your  thoughts on that nate uh specifically just the  

incompetence of the cia in terms of the the fact  that nobody gets fired nobody and and and and and  

who is going to fire them well i mean this right  this is the this is sort of the again like the  

brokenness of the people who run our country right  is that uh you have this sort of a set of insular  

credentialing institutions um that uh reward  incompetence and allow people who are completely  

you know not doing the job that they're supposed  to do to continue to justify their existence by  

you know any number of sort of bureaucratic  euphemisms about intersectionality and  

wokeness and all these things that we've become  familiar with so it's it is it is the way it is  

the new language of the ruling class and it's you  know it it is a way for them to sort of conceal  

their own ineptitude and to a certain extent  they're sort of like uh uh anti-americanism  

and the the fact that they're actually  working against the interests of the country

can you say that a little louder i said is there  no more cia no there is no more cia there's no  

more calm down stupid crazy but one recruiting  video probably doesn't mean that the ten thousand  

no no just destroyed itself and that they stopped  doing the the the nasty things that they're doing  

and we've witnessed in the last five  years six years enough abuse from the fbi  

courts in all these places to ask that rational  question do they no longer cease to exist as an  

organization and the part of the problem is is  that republicans for a long time including myself  

the courts what it was republicans who set up fisa  corps that's my point we had faith in this system  

that we no longer have faith in right we were  the ones that always supported the intelligence  

democrats were the ones that never did i mean  and we've spoken about this how there's been a  

major paradigm shift of parties where we're the  party now that doesn't trust these organizations  

but if you just tuned in you are listening to  the world according to that man benjamin jeremy  

stein we are all on location tonight sorry  for some audio little audio issues we do have  

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longer it will be on a site like youtube um  well i don't think youtube has anything to  

do with this yeah yeah you i mean i really  sincerely don't i might actually like that  

no no no no but but you never know what  they are look welcome back to the world  

according to bands tonight ben this has to go  with what you said you know you're constantly  

nervous about the thought police but we're getting  to the point where it's to say police where it's  

it's it's where if you dissent or you argue or  you um go against anything they say you could be  

whatever they decide it's a very frightening  thought and i have that thought all the time  

i strongly recommend to all of our readers and  friends that you nice kind women and gentlemen  

read 1984 and if you see similarities between that  book and the life in that book and death in that  

book and what's going on in america now i think  it will give you your own awakeness and wokeness  

and get you going and and i think if you uh if  you don't do that because you're not familiar  

with the works of george orwell and 1984 you are  missing the blueprint that the left has used to uh  

make very rapid and steady progress in controlling  america so here's the thing ken and nate i don't  

believe that most americans are in line what  this regime is doing blm is doing and i believe  

we actually have the numbers to support that and  i brought this up on the show with the ratings  

being so low on everything but the problem ken is  that the parents that this generation's parents  

are so delinquent in their duties and they're  the ones that they may be the silent majority  

but they are not speaking up and how do we get  those parents you're from the media action network  

how do we get those parents to go to the  school systems to to to fight the power ken  

well it's kind of tough because we raise these  little [ __ ] who are changing the country  

our lovely generation we went you know they talk  about uh what is it from white collar to shirt  

sleeves and three generations say that all the  time i believe it but we went from the greatest  

generation of you know murdering nazis to to  a group that that we're hiring intersexualists  

cisgender people with screwed up brains  to go go go spy on our on our enemies um  

there's always been a silent majority and  a and and you know one of the things that  

older people get is a little wisdom over time  which basically is if you pay attention to  

things you you kind of learn just by existing  right it's like nate can be twice as smart as  

as uh as as ben stein which i'm sure  isn't the case but even if he were  

you know there's just only so many sentient  years that you've had since age 17 when you  

started started reading things so there's always  a little bit of kind of conservative in the  

in the broader sense of what that that word  means with with older people um um so there is  

political power there's money there's there's uh  there's a lot of there's a lot of ways you don't  

have to go you don't have to go storm the uh the  the dean's office to get things done on campus  

but they do need to wake up and as you always  know because because i'm always talking about  

this i am out of all of the issues that we're  talking about wokeness and this and that it to  

me it is the suppression of free speech which kind  of trumps them all because if you're able to throw  

into the uh into the unemployment line or gulag  depending on your country people who speak wrongly  

in your opinion uh that's when countries go off  the rails that's when societies don't don't have a  

pendulum that the self self-regulating temperature  mechanism blows out when you get somebody who's  

able to do that and and that's why that's the  thing that makes me the most nervous and we are a  

hop skip and a jump from that from that watermark  and i am not saying that to frighten people i'm  

saying that because i honest to god believe that  to be the truth ben stein that we are so close to  

losing so many things you know 94 executive  actions in a little in about a hundred days  

that um of ways of sub subverting the country ben  that the that this that this regime is doing and  

it's it's is absolutely frightening um i mean 94  executive actions to destroy america i i think we  

discussed that this morning i said uh just some  bird america which is very similar certainly  

uh and i certainly agree with my colleagues here  uh destroying freedom of speech is absolutely key  

and i think we see it happening right now the  fact that you cannot say anything truthful  

about certain racial groups that's a very very  very bad situation you cannot say anything  

truthful about certain people or complaining about  sexual harassment certain situations i know of  

very close at hand i know to be completely phony  that you should be bigger but you cannot question  

them uh some of these situations are very very  important and if we let the intersectionals and  

left uh suppress our freedom of speech there will  be not much for me to pass on to my beautiful  

granddaughter coco and it breaks my heart i do  see it happening i think i mentioned a couple  

of sessions ago that um i see it even with my own  family my my very very brilliant outspoken uh son  

even he has been indoctrinated by the woke  left into being afraid about what his father  

his old father has to say about what's going on  in the world even he has been indoctrinated and  

terrified and he's a tough kid and the problem  is i mean to judah's point the the vast majority  

of americans not just the majority of americans i  would say probably this is probably an 80 20 issue  

would be rightly uh disturbed by what's going on  in our universities in our our military national  

security bureaucracy uh you know in a variety  of different sort of uh uh all of the major  

sort of commanding heights and institutions  in american life that wokeness has taken over  

the problem is most americans don't  know and this is this is like the  

the sort of fundamental problem of our time is  that for decades conservatives have been saying  

there's going to be a backlash there's going  to be a backlash there's going to be a backlash  

people are going to wake up and they're going to  people aren't going to take this sitting down and  

there's been little backlashes but not enough to  stop the country from continuing to march left  

at a pretty radical pace uh particularly one big  backlash about four years and three months ago  

that's true yeah and that and that was but trump  and i mean trump did a lot of fantastic things he  

fundamentally i think that the the central  message of his 2016 campaign was resisting  

wokeness and defending america against the  people who who hate it and want to see it  

destroyed but he unfortunately did not he was  not capable of stopping the long march through  

our institutions of the woke left uh and and  and now that you know the democrats have power  

in government again they have everything and this  is like again the fundamental problem of our time  

is the the consolidation of power by the activists  left in all of our institutions they have the  

academy they have the bureaucracy they have  the national security state in the military  

now they have the federal government they have  the media uh they and and you know conservatives  

there's not a single power center in american  life besides maybe talk radio that is actually  

broadly sympathetic to conservative ideas and and  that is why americans don't know what's going on  

and can't know what's going on because the entire  sort of superstructure that sets the narrative and  

defines what we're allowed to talk about what we  aren't is actively invested in making sure that  

they don't know what's going on but that could  have been stopped by the supreme court and we  

thought of when the constitution was written  we thought of the supreme court as being the  

rock of gibraltar that would stop this uh which i  say avalanche that would stop this uh tidal wave  

of dictatorial thinking from washing all over the  united states of america unfortunately they had  

their chance a few months ago and they completely  blew i think it's completely through it away why  

we do not know it was just pure cowardice no they  have been very smart people there so incredibly  

smart legal clerks incredibly incredibly smart  legal courts why did they let this blow away it is  

i will tell you respectfully as a lawyer and a law  student uh it is inconceivable that with the case  

of being brought up to them sometimes the election  they could not have found you just at least one  

to think about to think about i'm not saying  it shouldn't come out any particular way just  

to think about they didn't it was just like the  verdict in the derek sheldon case they took they  

didn't ask for any evidence they didn't ask many  documents bang you're done garnish you're out of  

here that is really frightening goes down for the  first time i think we have all the institutions  

of government in the hands of one that one power  the only ones left is a small part of the media  

and we are part of that small part and we're  very lucky and blessed to be given that honor  

you know you you it's exceptionally set well  said um nate and i were talking before ken um  

uh we were talking on the phone and one of the  biggest issues republicans have or conservatives  

have is that they have always thought that if they  have the better point if if they have the better  

critical thinking people will come to their side  so let's take two separate things we have trump  

winning and we have a lot of never trumpers  in the house and in the senate who don't want  

to follow this new this new way of messaging and  republicans and conservatives you're not going to  

win messaging a messaging war nobody's coming back  to the side and saying well you sounded better  

because they've been so scared they've been so  beaten into submission every day on tv every  

day on the news that it doesn't matter what we  critically or or or if we say we have to literally  

fight back i don't mean literally with our fists  but yeah well we have to be what i've said and  

what we've lost that is they have the combination  of gigantic financial power gigantic physical  

brute force power through the black lives matter  and other organizations and then almost horrible  

of all them in antifa and they have the evil media  wizards who are on their side endlessly trying to  

convince us that our society the best society  there has ever been an history of mankind is  

fundamentally evil there is something so sick and  evil about that why do they do it i keep thinking  

and i believe i brought this up to you hundreds  of times you're not literally hundreds of times  

why is it why is it that people have everything  the people who live near me in beverly hills  

the people who live near me in malibu  they have beautiful houses beautiful cars  

what what what what makes them hate america so  much i've told you many i mean i've told you  

my thing many times over they don't believe  in higher power they haven't they're they  

they are spiritually and morally bankrupt and  i'm not necessarily referring sorry nate well  

i was just going to say and also they have no  context right i mean this is fundamentally we  

have become a a nation of at least on the coasts  of entitled spoiled brats who have no conception  

of the way that the vast majority of humans lived  for the vast majority of human history and the  

vast majority of places that humans have lived  right we measure ourselves against the standard  

of perfection which is not um a standard that  is possibly attainable uh in this lifetime so  

i just the one other thing i would say on on  judas point is the difference between trump  

and the republican establishment it's messaging  certainly but it's not just messaging it's also  

fundamentally understanding what time it is in  america today right what you know the republican  

establishment hacks frankly have not woken up  and smelled the coffee about what's actually  

the political landscape in america and  what kind of politics this moment requires  

and they are still mired in the politics  of respectability where the most important  

thing is that you sound nice and you don't  say anything to offend the sensibilities of  

the new york times editorial board the genius  of trump right regardless of his flaws and he  

did have flaws that were worth criticizing  him for uh was that he understood that and  

he republican-based voters are much smarter than  republican elites because republican-based voters  

have understood this for decades and have wanted  a leadership class who represents their concern  

about the state of the country they haven't  got it until trump but the the divide between  

trump and someone like adam kinzinger or  you know these these clowns who who live

he's one of these he's much worse he's much worse  than liz james he's hard right but it's uh but he  

just spends all his time lecturing republican  voters about how awful they are on msnbc right  

and it's just it's it comes from a place of not  understanding what's actually happening in america  

and thinking the most important thing again is  the fact that trump says mean things or you know  

he breaks norms or something go ahead you are  a very good natured friend my young friend and  

i admire that about it's not that it's a kind of  mental illness it's not it's not that they don't  

understand they're filled with hatred they're just  burning he's saying the republicans he's saying  

i'm saying republicans don't realize that the  people we are facing are not your ordinary  

politicians from 1937 or 38 or 44 or 48 85  they are people who are burning up 95 healthy  

personalities of rage and anger and if you  just tuned in you are listening to the world  

according to that man benjamin jeremy stein we're  joined tonight from the media action network  

punching fiat back against the leftist coup  uh ken mccourt uh and of course from the young  

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on that note i want to welcome everybody back to  the world according to ben stein and this i have  

a question for you and i know you're against this  ben but nate really brings up a great point you if  

you if you run any company there's a certain point  for most company leaders that they lose touch with  

they they lose they lose a little bit of touch  with the new things that are going on there's  

very few that constantly are being updated and i  know you're against term limits but i i don't know  

how else to get rid of these republicans that are  so out of date and out of touch well we don't want  

to lose our seniority seniority is everything  in the congress and we don't want to get rid  

of that unless we have an incredibly compelling  reason and nothing that you've suggested is such  

a compelling reason it would be incredibly good if  we could have some republican committee chairman  

in the next congress that would be a wonderful  wonderful thing as to the corporate executives  

they're a whole different cattle officials they're  just interested generally not always in how much  

money they can suck out of the stockholders i i  have a close friend i think i've mentioned this  

to you beforehand that uh he just recently sent me  an email that he had sold his very very beautiful  

house in a very very fancy club in the desert  and the funeral house and a very fancy club a  

neighborhood in lake tahoe and bought a 130 foot  two foot yacht that's going to go sailing all  

around the world and i remember the rest now i saw  him in person i said gee whiz where did you get  

the money to do all this stuff i mean i knew you  had made some money but i didn't know this much  

he said my job as a top executive of a publicly  held company was to transfer money from the  

stockholders to myself there's something like that  going on in the top echelons of government they  

see their job as transferring power prestige from  the voters to themselves and you can see your aunt  

you're you're you're agreeing with me but you're  can record but the term limit thing i just don't  

understand the hesitancy to to having term limits  because we want to keep seniorities majorities  

it's not a terrible idea  it's a little bit limiting um  

have you ever seen it fix somewhere no just  give me one second ben the republicans don't  

have seniority david i think it's the 10-year  rule or a certain time that you could hold your  

seat democrats are the ones that have no limits  on how long you run a committee republicans do  

which is why they're all decrepit you know it's  a big reason it's either they're decrepid or they  

leave their job because they've lost their  power sorry to eliminate that rule for us  

maybe we should be able to i've never seen  term limits solve anybody's problem have you  

have what it's an okay thing i've never seen it  california's had it at multiple times and and  

and you know it's kind of like it's kind of like  playing a whack-a-mole i mean it's it's like  

well we're going to take money out of politics  good freaking luck i mean i've seen this happen in  

california multiple times oh then you're done with  your state senate job well now you're a lobbyist  

and then you can run for the assembly and then you  cop pop over here and you and oh we can't get this  

much money in straight well we bundle things from  friends and now we have a you know we can't have  

outside jobs but you could buy 40 000 copies of my  book if you like me um i mean there's those that  

that's that's kind of patching holes in a in a in  a larger boat the larger things are are the things  

that nate talked about earlier it's it's these  the up i don't care how many executive orders joe  

biden has signed that just doesn't float my boat  i care the fact that nbc is now a corrupt news  

organization that won't tell the truth about him  or has such a spin on it that nobody understands  

it those are the things that with the 50 year old  story ken i mean that they've been more interested  

in more than four well but it's not it's been  nothing like it's been in the last five years  

the new york times has gotten so much worse they  were mildly liberal they were right humorously  

liberal five ten years weren't mildly liberal they  just helped they just held themselves in check  

a little bit better it's like a rapist holding  himself in check okay because trump undressed them  

i mean that hit piece on ron desantis uh recently  it was uh i don't think it was nbc it was um  

60 minutes yeah right i mean that was  egregious right it was just it's just  

ben has been dealing with this  guy's been for what 50 years  

this this this issue with the media i mean our  most every the guy everybody looks up to walter  

walter cronkite he was i mean just a liberal  that admittedly changed the trajectory of a war  

yeah a very dishonest horrible guy since i have  a wonderful set of uh dvds of interviews with  

men and women who voted in the vietnam war and  boy do they have some nice things to say about  

walter cronkite about how he subverted them  and backstabbed the soldiers in the field  

but i agree the new york times has been terrible  forever but they've gotten so bad now it's  

like the most irritating awful greasy okay  yup did your bolshevist propaganda every day  

you know it reminds you that's der sturmer those  who know world war ii it's just stern right now  

sad very sad not not funny nazi probably world  war ii but and i've heard that i've heard der  

sturmer what is what is it it was a nazi it's  a nazi magazine uh uh added by julia striker  

violent anti-semite and it's its main purpose  is to whip people up to frantic uh levels of  

anti-semitism so they considered the idea of  killing endless jews uh uh completely acceptable  

well yeah and the i mean and the the reason for  the you know the sort of activist left-wing turn  

of you know previously traditionally storied  institutions like the new york times is the same  

reason that the cia is has gone insane which is  that it's this insular woke elite culture uh where  

you know they the new york times is expected to  shill for the brand and if they don't uh they're  

you know they're shamed for it like it's it's  interesting like i remember on the campaign trail  

i might have mentioned this before on this show  uh you know the the new york times in the the sort  

of left-wing media more broadly was blamed not  entirely incorrectly for trump's 2016 win because  

they gave him so much free air time because  they thought he was a joke they didn't take him  

seriously and he was great for their ratings so  they would stream every single one of his rallies  

and the sort of post-mortem on that was like we we  we gave this guy the win um so in 2020 there was  

so much pressure on them to just be an activist  organization and every time they ran a story that  

was even could remotely be construed as critical  of biden or favorable of trump the backlash to  

it i mean you should have seen on twitter the you  know the comments thousands of comments why would  

you do this you know what you're doing this is  giving them fodder like da da da da da da da uh  

and that spooks journalists right so they they toe  the line because it's easier no no i don't think  

it spooks journalists i i to be honest with you  i think they all come out of college ninety nine  

point nine percent liberal i don't know of course  of course but the point is it it didn't i think  

yeah just sorry guys yeah but i think they find  the biggest ass they could kiss from the beginning  

of of liberalism and and ride that liberal wave  and ken is right i know ken's point in the past  

where we gotta sneak in we gotta you know verita  you know project veritas these things but also get  

into the into the universities as teachers we got  to get into these media organizations but that ken  

is a long battle and and right now i gotta you  know i said this to ben today essentially throwing  

or i said this is somebody they are essentially  throwing ben a thousand pieces of [ __ ] against  

the wall and we're having to figure out which  ones to go after that's the carnage and wreckage  

they're doing right now is they're doing so many  different things we don't even know where to start  

well i don't i don't i must say it's luckily  they must have forgotten where i lived because  

my walls were breaking but but we are  going to have such a hard time doing this  

the last place i taught on a full-time basis  who lived on campus was uc santa cruz it was  

hilarious it wasn't during the 72 election it  was hilarious if you said you're a fan of nixon  

they thought you were joking they really  did not they didn't get mad at me they  

thought i was kidding they couldn't believe  i was serious later on i went and taught at  

pepperdine a school i liked very very much  beauty there they did take it seriously but  

how many pepperdines are there not enough nowhere  near enough where did you get that like i talked  

to you on the show and like i've said to you ben  i doubt highly doubt pepperdine is the pepperdine  

that you remember it but can listen they  let kids dance there now when i went there

and i like how ben's friend is actually you're  living ben's friend's dream you have the houseboat  

you just haven't set course yet on which uh which  direction you're going ken but how do we get there  

how do i i i i don't know first of all we need  to not practice sinai bills just yet we're you  

know we're not back right now cyanide and kill  ourselves just yet um um because as upset as we  

are right now four years ago liberals were were  falling down in fetal positions and sobbing in  

their in their carpet so so you know the the  opposition is always out there i don't want to  

i don't want to minimize some of the  directions that we're going in here but  

you know we lost you know we came within x  000 votes of still holding the whole thing  

uh yet still holding the presidency they wouldn't  have been as [ __ ] as they were down and down in  

georgia and lost the senate just that was a gimme  that we gave them right that was a that was an  

unforced deep the offense gave the ball  and the other guys ran it back because  

there was there was there was nothing for him and  we got the supreme court so we but but you know we  

don't have the supreme court ken yeah we got more  the supreme court than liberals have i don't know

it depends on the issue it depends on the issue  right but i also read rudy giuliani's briefs it's  

like they were kind of stupid you know yeah he's  a good american i love him i know him i i i worked  

on his campaign in the 80s but you know to to  call the supreme court liberal because they didn't  

take up some of those entirely stupid briefs  that were given to them by by the uh the woman  

down in in georgia and by rudy you know i wouldn't  hold that against him look i i i know john roberts  

wants to go to a party more than i can i'm not  just talking about with stuff with the elections  

and ben's the one that's raised the point they  didn't hear stuff from the attorney generals  

from other states they didn't hear lawsuits from  anybody i'm talking about this case last week  

with the with the illegal immigrant we cannot  count it's always the case with conservatives  

that we vote into the court people that we  cannot count on we have brett kavanaugh for  

no other reason than the democrats turned him from  a moderately conservative frat boy into a hardcore  

conservative who hated every could you imagine  brett kavanaugh when he sees a democrat stand up  

yeah they come out of his eyes yet he still has  voted the guys that all said that you should have  

been on the supreme court because some woman said  you dry-humped her in high school yeah the new  

york times was running uh you know allegations  that you were a gang rapist on their front page  

right i mean that would make anyone a  clarence thomas right winger i don't think  

kavanaugh's been pretty solid judah i mean  there's like some planned parenthood cases that he  

he declined to hear but what when is kavanaugh  really like consistently voted with the left wing  

of the bench i'm not sure i agree that just but we  don't we don't like to say it but before it begins  

with e-l yeah we we don't like to begin to say  certain things of cases that they wouldn't hear  

um that got us ixnayed from last time nate hockman  was here in the house yo so let's get off that top  

i see yeah okay um of of of the supremes  the band that's who we were referring to  

who we just don't believe everything that  happened in 2020 was perfectly above board  

yes nothing sketchy yeah that's that's  that's my president that that's that's

that's exactly right and on that note if you just  tuned in you are listening to the world according  

to ben stein i put in the i put in um the link uh  uh in the chat for our rumble remember to download  

the podcast um go to the media action network and  read and subscribe i really subscribe to ken stuff  

his is the the pieces he puts out are great um  it's a great website it's the court news i don't  

often say that but please do um and of course nate  hochman we're joined by tonight from young voices  

of america and we're having a little bit of a  lively discussion of agreements and disagreements  

um but ben just the fact that you have the  question i want to go to a little full circle  

before we play our little game but i want to get  back full circle of just that you question whether  

the cia is is is let's get back to that video is  doing their job or is a frightening freaking thing  

yeah but let me let my butt now here  i'm gonna shock some of our viewers  

there was a guy a long time ago i'm the only  one in the hizzy who remembers him joe mccarthy  

he said the same thing about the cia and  about various parts of the defense department  

and the atomic energy commission or whatever it's  called in those days and people say oh god what a  

lunatic absolute crazy lunatic turned out he was  right when the vanona decrypts happened turned  

out he was right someday there will maybe possibly  be decrypts of russian intelligence services since  

the end of the crown land on the soviet  union we may see that more of these people  

were agents than we thought there is a lot  of russian activity in the u.s government  

i suspect i don't know for sure i just suspect  there is and the chinese are smart as hell  

incredibly hard working uh the idea that they  would somehow hand they say hands off and not  

have anything to do with our intelligence  gathering is very hard for me to follow  

no i mean i i i agree with you wholeheartedly i  i and words i never thought would come out of ben  

and we've discussed this in the past been how much  you've changed in your thoughts and your beliefs  

about the us government um and how corrupt and  how deep the swamp ken is in your wildest dreams  

did you ever i mean from working at fox news not  just working running helping run fox news did you  

think did did you know how big of a swamp this was  how corrupt it was i i got some inclinations of it  

later on i i how do i say primarily among the  fbi i i don't have enough enough interaction  

with with the cia as as as a former journalist to  know the fbi was always a an interesting outfit it  

was when you would meet a field officer at the  fbi he or she was always pretty good they were  

smart they were aggressive they were they were  you know they were they were on top of their game  

it was one of those agencies though where the  cream didn't rise to the top so like you'd  

meet with their boss and their boss was okay  and then you'd meet with their bosses bosses  

and by the time you got higher up if you know  you you were at the am pm mini mark right then  

so so i and i think that that's just you know we  see that in some entities uh uh you know police  

forces firefighting forces that and and i don't  want to splurge any of them that the the the best  

players stay on the field as opposed to going  to management um i never quite fully understood  

the the how politicized it had become until we  had some incidences that fox this is the fbi uh  

and then clearly you know during during the during  the trump administration i mean you didn't have to  

read those guys you didn't have to read too many  texts from the the crazy guy or just i mean you  

know watching struck you know all you had to do  was turn down the sound and watch that guy testify  

and you knew something you know there were some  marbles that weren't weren't clicking right right  

and um and and and all the way up to the although  up to the very top of that so uh you know these  

are huge organizations and it's and it's it's  probably easy to paint them with the broad brush  

you know i mean look and just at fox news which  had 2 000 to 4 000 employees depending on my  

time there we had liberals there we had hardcore  conservatives there we had great people there we  

had drug addicts there i mean they're big they're  big entities with with different parts of it  

but clearly there was there was corruption heavy  at the top at the top of the fbi you know during  

during the the end of the obama years beginning  of the trump years and the same thing is true of  

uh the military i mean to ken's point about the  division between the sort of uh the the cream not  

rising to the top right is uh we are accustomed to  thinking of the military as a conservative leaning  

institution but the the top brass is actually  really woke they're very similar to the cia and  

they've been so many examples recently the  the sort of official organs of the pentagon  

and the department of defense going after  tucker carlson for suggesting shockingly that  

pregnant women shouldn't serve in the military  i mean it's it was it's just sort of ridiculous  

uh but the the privates in the army are still  more conservative and your audience sir sir with  

all due respect my very smart young friend i think  what tucker said was they shouldn't be in combat  

he didn't say they shouldn't be even even more  to that point he was actually talking about the  

fact that they had designed jumpsuits for women  who were pregnant uh right flight jumpsuits okay  

so here's here's the facts let's let's get down to  brass tacks the fact that we're discussing the cia  

the military other organizations that protect us  being woke should be one of the most frightening  

thoughts to to normal americans china and  other countries must be looking at us going  

they're laughing at us they got to be laughing  their answers like when when when and how do  

we attack they didn't even need to attack they're  like they didn't even need to attack us ben we've  

attacked ourselves i mean the freaking and i'm  using the mil the woke military is that like a  

joke i mean it sounds like you it sounds like  a bad 1980 you know 70s movie awoke military  

astonishingly the uh new chairman of joint shapes  his name escapes me for the moment just because  

i'm quite tired uh was asked would you choose  wokeness or most qualified and he said wilson's  

a as for lead for command that's absolutely  incredible mind-boggling mind-boggling actually  

no i mean i'm gonna look back and say it  about this conversation ken and judah and  

and and nate and say i can't believe it's  gotten into the vernacular of these agencies  

it is it is and and and can you write the hr  department it's frightening i mean it's look china  

is china is designing super soldiers right now  they're testing uh uh on humans trying to design  

biologically advanced super soldiers and we're  arguing over whether or not math is racist i mean  

it's just it's a parody it's it's so unprepared  to face china that it's it's sort of it's  

right we are being told and  this is happening in the schools  

of northern virginia which used to have some  of the best school districts in america that's  

right they are going to eliminate advanced math  because it discriminates against black children  

because it promotes only smart racing there are  racist white children and therefore they're not  

going to have any advanced math at all now those  schools loudoun county i forgot ireland county i  

remember the names of all the other my big  wife who went to school there so obviously  

they have some very smart people uh they  are discontinuing higher math advanced math  

for high school students that is criminal if i  were directing the uh activities of the chinese  

people's republic i would say judy hooray  whoever accomplished this you get a medal  

and somebody will say comrade they did it  to themselves uh he was just shake his head  

we're running out of time to play the game  i just want to quickly just i can't i mean  

they call it critical race theory i think that's  the most ironic name to name anything is critical  

race theory when there's nothing critical thinking  about it um it's critical of america that's the  

idea right right but there's no critical thinking  going on um and on that note yeah it's a little  

confusing and on that note let's let's play the  game stump the stein um this is a game we're  

going to play on a tuesday night and it's going  to be easy banister you're a little tired but  

one of the one of the intriguing and  interesting things about ben stein is  

that he's met a lot of people he hasn't met a  lot of people and we've sort of done this before  

but who is ben stein met and who is not ben  steinmet and who does benstein want to meet so  

i will be reading your questions in the chat can  you europe first well what are you talking about  

who has been stein met who has he not met  we're just asking him who he's putting an  

intro into a game that's just you kind of  talking high level stuff yeah like i don't  

i don't understand the terms of the game the  terms of the game are so he's missing five

okay it was a terrible way  i set up the game i'm sorry  

to stump him i come up with somebody who  i think he should have met but didn't  

find out i wanted to do another game but i was a  little nervous of would you rather so i i so as i  

was thinking about people you would rather have as  the governor of california um i i started thinking  

of the game would you rather or i started thinking  about the game desert island okay ken you choose  

the game you're the you're the guru pick something  so ben would you rather have caitlyn jenner

as the as the governor of  california or honored schwarzenegger

arnold schwarzenegger oh that's a great question  isn't that a no-brainer was anyone who would  

anyone say caitlyn caitlin's ad it was pretty  good i got to be honest you know you know what  

caitlyn jenner is to the right of christie gnome  on transgender issues and caitlyn generous to the  

right of arnold schwarzenegger on pretty much  every issue except yeah yep yeah okay i like  

arnold because he used today to close friends okay  go ahead i'm going with caitlyn jenner okay uh uh  

nate i'll ask you oh man i i'm trying to come  up i i didn't this is putting him on the spot  

i don't have a great way yeah it's called being  on the spot sometimes um yes ben has never met  

directly donald trump he's uh spoken talked to  him on the phone who's spoken to him on the phone  

can you seem to have would you rather  game really close to your chest so go  

for it ken as i bobbled and fumbled  my way through this last segment  

ben would you rather be an employee  of the first trump administration

or i think it's going to be an organ

the nixon administration i'm trying to come up  with the the opposite to give you another thing  

all right i'm looking for my right i'm looking  to my right out there i see the boundless pacific  

ocean i am blessed enough to have a house in the  sweeping industry of the pacific ocean would i  

like to be stuck out there with kamala harris  for 10 million dollars no they're going through

i hate to say this divorces you and tells you to  find another another love would you rather have  

as a as a as a temporary dating partner fwb  is what i mean friends with ben benefits

aoc um she's kind of cute yeah uh nate or or judah  help me with kind of like a middle-aged republican  

middle-aged republican aoc or or  mccain's daughter elise elise stefanik  

fancy or mccain's daughter megan no why not  liz cheney i don't want any of them thank you  

mom you can't cop out like that can't cop out  like that ben and yeah there's a lot of cop  

out of anything he wants have you ever met but  so so um i'm not going to ask that no offense  

i'm not uh would you rather low unemployment  or high inflation i don't uh i i i i love how  

i would rather have low and there you are there's  your answer ben has uh met henry kissinger he's  

met all these people i love where ken's brain goes  into the would you rather game and that's a big  

reason i didn't want to play that game than i can  was because i was scared of you to be honest um  

and then i looked at nate and i realized nate's  the reverse of you he's a little more reserved  

and i could see him having never played the  would you rather game i could be wrong mate  

um but i'm pretty good of course i've played  would you rather i mean i've been in high  

school this is just sort of uh i don't know  sorry we didn't play that in high school we  

just watched our football team the blazers they  were great let me ask you a question ben actually  

what games did you play in high school like  did you play truth or dare no i played chess  

latin scrabble that was very very good we had  a latin scramble no wonder you didn't get into  

the cia yeah exactly exactly yeah we played  latin scrabble and i played a lot of genocide  

my house was right next to a park there very nice  tennis courts and so you never played any of those  

wild games like you mean you went to sock hops you  did all those things you never um yes i only had  

one uh girl who lived in me that i ever really uh  touched in any meaningful way and that's who that  

shall be will be a deep dark secret until my dying  day i know who it is ah man on that note ben's  

getting a little tired his audio's a little out  and i think that's a good time to cut it um we are  

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sorry i was in the chat we were talking about  what politicians had i saw that yeah certain  

body parts and nobody's going to like my answer  because the answer is nancy pelosi but anyhow

she you take a look at her in a sweater i agreed  with everything you said on the show until then  

and i mean go google it go to google thing and  look at nancy look i'm not saying i'm not saying  

i'd go there with a 10 inch pole but you're  not not saying that if you look at at women  

with the traditionally masculine view of of of of  certain parts of their body anyhow nobody's coming  

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